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have u shot any of these, it's the forum saying "at that level it's all preference"
If ur not a cocker guy then don't get the karny, the shockers vision will still cause a few chops, and the proto IS the DM4, just a little smaller, cheaper, and differnt milling.
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05 PROMASTER , 14" Macdev Matchstick, Kila Drive, Zentriam Valve, ICDU ram, CCM no-rise, Sonic lpr

No reason for hope.
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