if you are a new player i would highly recomend the tippmann 98 custom act (yes kaz i agree with you for once)
They are both rugged and reliable and highly upgradeable so as your skill improves and you knowledge of the game increases you can accomidate you gun to your style of play.
As for the spyders go spring quality on a referb isn't always the best and quality control is a little to lax for my liking.
If you are looking for something that shoots alot of paint out of the box.
Take a look @ the wgp Synergy 18 bps (it comes with a vlhopper that is matched perfectly to the gun) it does cost a little more but it imo is alot better than the spyders you are looking @ If you are looking to get in to a tourny it has presets for psp ramp and nxl full auto
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