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DM4 w/o UL frame would be around $150
DM5 w/o UL frame would be around $200
DM4 w/ UL frame would be around $200
DM5 w/ UL frame would be around $250
Any higher than that, and they're gold-digging hoping someone that doesn't pay attention will buy it, OR they don't really wanna sell it. Various upgrades can add a little, but not going to add much.
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