Originally Posted by Alpha

No bias here, I've never chopped on my piranha. I've double fed in the chrono line because I was an idiot and forgot my alens or something and uncocked and came back and cocked it again. And this is a low-end G3 piranha.

Tippmanns are overrated by many people too, perhaps more hten spyders. Every newbie I see usually wants a 98c with a 3000 inch barrel and a 48x nightvision scope so he can pwn all. Same with many spyder n00bs, and I was one of them at one point too.

Have you considered the fact that a spyder can outshoot a tippmann in terms of speed? You can get a spyder over 12bps easily, but tippmanns usually top out around 10. Maybe you were shooting your tippmann at 7 or 8 bps and then when you went to test your spyder shot at a higher speed.

Its hard to say which gun is better then another ebcuase there are just so many different variables. Adn who cares. Its not like your going to stay stock forever. Your going to eventually upgrade. Its like trying to compare an MP5 to a M4. Both havegreat capabilities, but both are more suited for their own niche.

Go for the pro/carbine, hands down. You won't be able to stand your ground in speedball, but in the woods, its a perfect match.