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April 6th, 05:22 PM
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April 6th, 05:27 PM
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PBF is full of flame pits, and debats that get out of hand. As long as they stay somewhat on topic anymore, i'm happy. It's a good topic though, i'll give it that much.
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April 15th, 10:38 AM
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hi someone said about pictures?????
here is mine hit 21.5 with reactivity.......
and the other side......lol
And yeah even without reactivity Mags can shoot fast if you know how....
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April 15th, 03:43 PM
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looking good, throw em in the pic thread!
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April 15th, 07:01 PM
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Lord, I am about to dissect your post into a kajillion little pieces.
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Do you have any idea how long people have said that? Look where it got them. High priced spyder knock offs that need every damn anti chop system out there to prevent them from chopping.. and you know what.. they don't always prevent those chops either!
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Where do you get this stuff man? I have never chopped with any of my guns that had at least basic ACE installed. The only time any electro with yes is going to chop is if the eyes were jerry-rigged up and installed improperly or if you are using dark paint with something reflective, like Vision or E1 eyes. Any other chops I have ever seen on an E-Gun with ACE were related to a detent problem, which can happen on just about every gun out there.
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Anything based around electronics is bound to break more then something based on a mechanical system. Mechanical systems are extremely easy for people to fix because the problem is right there, and is visible.
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Yeah, go on telling yourself that. If you are going to want to fix some problems on mech guns even you will need at least a semi-good understanding of pneaumatics and how things work, and I will tell you firsthand I have had some more quizzical problems with my mags and some that were the hardest to fix up on those same mags than I have on any of my E-Guns I have owned, other than a battery problem I had on my E-Mag.
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Electronics, that's another story. The average baller isn't going to know what went wrong with his board if the marker stops working. Also the average baller doesn't like having his batteries die on him out on the field leaving his ass hanging out in the open. We've all experienced the dreaded hopper batteries dying on the field, leaving us playing civil war style trying to last in the game. Your trigger dies, you're ****ed, i dont care who you are. Unless you have a hybrid system, then you can take your electronics and shove them where the sun don't shine.
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Honestly, how many times do you see someone in serious play walking off the field because their gun suddenly flipped out or a battery all of the sudden died? I don't know any guns that will eat more than or a whole battery a day of play, and anyone with half a brain replaces their battery after a day of play. And the hopper comment had no revalance at all, a good majority of everyone now has some kind of electric hopper.
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You need 20bps to play paintball, then you need some serious help. Shooting that fast turns you into a lazy baller, and causes way too much overshooting of other players.
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Give me a break. Ever watched X-Ball? Or played anything like it? Some of those players are shooting crazy fast and making the most aggressive moves you've ever thought up. Don't start spewing that bull about 1 shot 1 kill, because unless you are godly or playign against some other slow firing team the other team is going to kick your ass off the break and on runthroughs.
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Not to mention all the little faggots that have their triggers set to a mouse fart which go off if they sneeze. I can tell you how many times i've been shot waiting for a game to start or trying to work out a deal during a scenario because someone's electronic trigger decided to fire randomly. It's not cool. Cause every scenario guy knows.. when one person fires.. everyone fires and they ask questions later.
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Feces happens, if someones likes their trigger short they should be more careful with it. It isn't the guns fault, and not a problem with the gun, it is the player at fault for not being more careful.
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Electronics = more potential problems then Mechanical.
Mechanical > Electronics when it comes to reliability.
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Your opinion sucks. Of course mechanical is going to be better than electronic in the reliability category, but do you think you are going to be winning any major competition with your mech mag anytime soon? No. Competitive paintball is about rate of fire and aggressiveness, get used to it.
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April 15th, 07:19 PM
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Yeah, go on telling yourself that. If you are going to want to fix some problems on mech guns even you will need at least a semi-good understanding of pneaumatics and how things work,
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Your opinion sucks. Of course mechanical is going to be better than electronic in the reliability category
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April 15th, 07:23 PM
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Says the guy who types like a 4 year old.
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April 15th, 07:28 PM
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and now your turn prophet...
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Where do you get this stuff man? I have never chopped with any of my guns that had at least basic ACE installed. The only time any electro with yes is going to chop is if the eyes were jerry-rigged up and installed improperly or if you are using dark paint with something reflective, like Vision or E1 eyes. Any other chops I have ever seen on an E-Gun with ACE were related to a detent problem, which can happen on just about every gun out there.
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You're using somethign he argued against. He was talking about eyes and fancy electronics that are used to keep people from chopping. Wheras the Lvl 10 valve kit for a mag completly elimanates chopping. (without electronics)
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Honestly, how many times do you see someone in serious play walking off the field because their gun suddenly flipped out or a battery all of the sudden died? I don't know any guns that will eat more than or a whole battery a day of play, and anyone with half a brain replaces their battery after a day of play. And the hopper comment had no revalance at all, a good majority of everyone now has some kind of electric hopper.
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people with electronic triggers do run out of batteries..maybe you haven't, but other people do...case closed.
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Give me a break. Ever watched X-Ball? Or played anything like it? Some of those players are shooting crazy fast and making the most aggressive moves you've ever thought up. Don't start spewing that bull about 1 shot 1 kill, because unless you are godly or playign against some other slow firing team the other team is going to kick your ass off the break and on runthroughs.
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The point here is that it's completly un neccassary to shoot 20 bps. tournies were just as exciting when everybody was shooting 10-15 bps. The fast gun craze is keeping paint companies happy cuz everybody now uses so much more paint than before.
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Feces happens, if someones likes their trigger short they should be more careful with it. It isn't the guns fault, and not a problem with the gun, it is the player at fault for not being more careful.
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if a breeze blows it's the players fault? how about if the vibrations from a person walking causes thier gun to go off? is that somehow their fault? I think not. People with guns that have very very sensitive triggers should be very careful, but it's not always thier fault if the gun fires unintentionally.
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Your opinion sucks. Of course mechanical is going to be better than electronic in the reliability category, but do you think you are going to be winning any major competition with your mech mag anytime soon? No. Competitive paintball is about rate of fire and aggressiveness, get used to it.
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I'd love to see Lord take you on in a game of speedball. Ignorance is no way to treat a good paintball marker. Competitve paintball is about thinking and acting accordingly. How is aggressiveness linked ot using a mag? you think that somebody witha mag can't be aggressive? toss me a mag and I'll show you.... |
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April 15th, 07:43 PM
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Prophet's not here, so I will field these questions for him. 
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You're using somethign he argued against. He was talking about eyes and fancy electronics that are used to keep people from chopping. Wheras the Lvl 10 valve kit for a mag completly elimanates chopping. (without electronics)
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Lvl 10 isn't perfect. You CAN chop with Level 10. I have seen it done. And when it stops a chop you know that neato little "chuff" noise? That takes a little while to bounce back, doesn't it? Yeah.
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people with electronic triggers do run out of batteries..maybe you haven't, but other people do...case closed.
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If you replace your battery before/after playing there is no reason why your gun should just die, and if it does it probably isn't the battery. You'd have to be playing a long time to get that many shots off to kill your battery.
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The point here is that it's completly un neccassary to shoot 20 bps. tournies were just as exciting when everybody was shooting 10-15 bps.
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No it wasn't. Don't tell me you are as full of adrenaline when your bunker is getting hit by 8 BPS as you are when someone is just raining on you.
Oh, and one of the biggest current tourney circuits around right now enforces a 15 BPS cap.
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The point here is that it's completly un neccassary to shoot 20 bps. tournies were just as exciting when everybody was shooting 10-15 bps. The fast gun craze is keeping paint companies happy cuz everybody now uses so much more paint than before.
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Same retarded arguement used by every person shooting slower than the next guy. "You are just wasting paint like that, I can hit them in one shot with my uber-sniper barrel anyways."
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if a breeze blows it's the players fault? how about if the vibrations from a person walking causes thier gun to go off? is that somehow their fault? I think not. People with guns that have very very sensitive triggers should be very careful, but it's not always thier fault if the gun fires unintentionally.
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Give me a video of someones gun going off from the wind, and yes, i've seen the one with Havoc's EMag set up to shoot when blown on, but a breeze? No.
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I'd love to see Lord take you on in a game of speedball. Ignorance is no way to treat a good paintball marker. Competitve paintball is about thinking and acting accordingly. How is aggressiveness linked ot using a mag? you think that somebody witha mag can't be aggressive? toss me a mag and I'll show you....
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Did I say I could outball Lord? No, for all I know he is the best undiscovered player in ball. Did I saw mags can't be used to be aggressive? No. I didn't. By aggressive I meant shooting and moving, doing 12+ on run throughs, and that statement about competitive paintball being all about thinking is BS, most decisions on the field are things of the moment when an oppertunity is lined up, other than that the only real thinking involved is in first and secondary bunkers, along with finding lanes etc. Face it, the game is about controlling the lanes while people make moves, he who shoots fastest (with the same skill level as the rest, that is) will win.
EDIT: Viking = Ball after ball no hitch, E-Mag = *chuff* *chuff* Oh, darn.
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April 15th, 08:24 PM
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I'm gonna hafta agree with the dude above me. Mags are dying out, and should stay that way.
Brian, I've never experienced a problem with an ACEd gun chopping like mad, unless of course you're using bouncebeam and dark paint, but then you are just begging for a blender. And L10 isn't foolproof, either. Nothing is. Electronics or mechanical, you're going to run into problems.
How many times do you ACTUALLY see someone have a board problem on an electric gun? Not many. Now, how many times do you see a problem with a mech gun that is confusing as hell to fix? For us at the field, quite a few. Whether it be with mech cockers or mech mags, I've experienced more problems with them than with electronic markers. Why? Couldn't tell ya. But mechanics can be more confusing than electronics a lot of the time.
And to whoever said 20bps is overkill - you're damn right it is. No one shoots 20bps. 15bps is fine enough. And if you say you think that's overkill, then why the hell do you people idolize people who get 16-18cps on their mags? Because it's cool? Yeah, it's also cool to dodge some dudes stream of 15 coming straight at you. It adds an element of excitement to the game.
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April 15th, 08:38 PM
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Thank god Prophet, I never really agreed with any of your posts on PBN, but at least somebody else in this thread is not so much of an AGD zealot.
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April 15th, 08:47 PM
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Thank god Prophet, I never really agreed with any of your posts on PBN, but at least somebody else in this thread is not so much of an AGD zealot.
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Wait, who are you on PBN?
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April 15th, 08:49 PM
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TheLPB. I don't post much, but I browse ST for laughs.
I just never really agreed with you on anything :P
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April 15th, 08:49 PM
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TheLPB. I don't post much, but I browse ST for laughs.
I just never really agreed with you on anything :P
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Most people don't agree with me 
But at least we agree on Mags. bleh @ mags.
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April 15th, 08:52 PM
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I'm not sayin bleh, I like mags, but I hate the ignorant retards who think their gun can shoot out gold and think they are better than everyone else.
Retards.
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April 15th, 09:45 PM
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you guys are really bringing down the thread. lol
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April 15th, 10:04 PM
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That hurts, man.
Ouch.
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April 15th, 10:14 PM
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What makes mags so good?
