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**Sumweirdguy** · April 17th, 03:30 PM

So i've been looking into getting a mag for a while now, i dont know much about them but i know they look awesome and are very light and durable, but how would one perform compared to an e-cocker in tourney ball?, more specificaly my gun (the specs are in my sig) Could anyone tell me if it would be better to stay with my gun or try to get an upped mag, what would be some of the pro's/con's of going from a cocker to a mag? Also does anyone have decently upped mag they would be willing to trade or sell?

**Sumweirdguy** · April 17th, 05:56 PM

anyone?

**txaggie08** · April 17th, 06:24 PM

illd look into an emag. very durable, very easy to maintain. the pneumag is also fixing to come out. check out the devilmag the emag or the xmag. a mech mag will be nice, and i personaly think it would be about on par with the cocker(there are pros and cons to each-mainly cocker>speed, mag>durability, ease of maintanence etc.)

go over to automags.org and look around there. great place to learn

**AGD_kid** · April 17th, 06:25 PM

would you want an electric gun, mech, or both?

**Meekajahama** · April 17th, 06:28 PM

u can always get a mech mag then whenever you can send it to devilsden and get it hooked up with a devil frame or wait for the pneumag but other than that your cocker will be faster but the mag like said above will be more durable

Alpha · April 17th, 06:31 PM

You probably put $500 into your gun after hte initial purchase, correct? WEll with a mag, if you get one new then you dont need to really do anything. Paradigm.

www.themagsmith.com.

16bps easy (legal), 30+ illegal with more pressure. 15- ounce trigge pull (not too light, but not heavy either). Wont really give you any problems with chopping (you can stick your finger in teh chamber and fire away). Umm.. Theres like 5 parts to it. Valve, bolt, rail, frame, sear.

**Sumweirdguy** · April 17th, 07:30 PM

Thanks guys, i am mainly looking for an even trade, a pretty good mag, for a pretty good cocker, what does lvl 10 mean? also how exactly does the mag work? I'd like to stay mech since i have seen vids of someone walking a mech mag and it ripped, wasnt that the hair trigger or something like that? Alpha i have been searching for a Paradigm but i cant find it anywhere woudl you happen to have a link? Which would be faster if i got the pneumag or devil frame, the mag or my cocker still? I have been looking for hours for someone that would trade a mag for a cocker...no luck

Alpha · April 17th, 07:56 PM

A pneumag iwll be faster. A devilmag will be fast too.

The paradigm can only be found at www.themagsmith.com . Talk to RogueFactor on AIM. Tell him Alpha sent you.

Level 10 is a bolt that lets the air relief itsself, so its impossible to chop a ball. Once it encounters resistance the air flows around.

Mags work by this.. Air enters the back of the valve, where it is regulated. When it enters the valve part (this is where my knowledge is shady, I've never opened out up), it pushed a pin in the on/off down. At the end of this pin is a hole that 'connects a circut'. When the pin is pushed down, air is released. The pin is pushed down by the sear, which is on a pivot. IT pivots by the trigger, which pushes in pin in the back of the trigger.

better yet, just watch one of those mag animations...

**AGD_kid** · April 17th, 08:38 PM

don't worry, i keep a spare. lol

**Sumweirdguy** · April 17th, 08:55 PM

About how fast would one of those Paradigms shoot out of the box? Could anyone post up some vids of mech mags shooting please? How is the recoil on these guns also

**t33kyboy** · April 17th, 09:09 PM

e-cocker > mag.

If your planning to play in tourneys, dont get a mechanical mag. They simply cannot compete with higher end markers (like your e-cocker). I suggest you get a emag, they are worth around $500 used now so you wont have a hard time finding a trade.

**Sumweirdguy** · April 17th, 09:31 PM

What other emag's do they have besides the ones like yours teek, personally i dont like the huge square block on the front

**t33kyboy** · April 17th, 09:35 PM

The only option is a devilmag, which costs around $900, not worth it IMO.

**Sumweirdguy** · April 17th, 09:38 PM

what about the hair trigger that they had came out with, wasnt that like a walkable mech trigger?

**bobide** · April 17th, 09:46 PM

yeah but that thing is going to be like $200 or more. If u don't like the big front grip of an e-mag and don't like how slow (yes i said it, don't give me ur 17bps blah blah blah rapid fire crap, the pull is heavier then a electro, so it's going to be slower) then mags aren't for u.

and t33k, hot hot HOT emag banner

**Sumweirdguy** · April 17th, 09:56 PM

well i play front so i dont really need a lot of speed i mean i need at least 10-12, but nothing crazy, does anyone have a vid of an emag shooting? I guess i dont mind the front grip so much anymore, it has grown on me.

**AGD_kid** · April 17th, 11:07 PM

you wil find it to be more comfy than it looks, and it has no kick that i can feel. i will try and make a vid tomorrow if i can find my camera. i have one vid, but my barrel started coming off during the vid (some1 stole my barrel o-ring).

http://www.jayloo.com/videos/show_vid/1218.html

**txaggie08** · April 18th, 02:36 AM

the HAIR will not be coming out. ptp is making a version of it looking to be aprox 100$ not 200. you can build the same thing with a dremel tool and 50 bucks in parts. gimme a yell if you want a link to the thread. its not hard im building an e-version now

***Little_Ho*** · April 18th, 08:21 AM

Hi

get an E-Mag or a X-Mag. The nice thing is, you can have both a mech RT or an E-Mag. I dont think that the Devil mag is worth the money and i dont think that the Hair Trigger ever getting released....But you can look on AO`s Workshop Threads. A lot of Guys put Pneu/E Triggers in their Mags and they looking very nice. If you dont like the Battery Pack, the convert it.....You can find all that there....The Home of the Mag.

Thats a nice feature. Flip the switch to E-Mode and you have an very short (adjustable) E-Trigger. Flip it the other way and turn the Electronic off and you have a regular RT. Be in Mech mode and leaf the Electronic on, then you haveing a nice Hybrid mode......lol

I cant wait until i get a new X-Valve and get to shoot that......lol

You can find a lot more infornation on AO. I got mine, well just the lowers for around 350. All you need is put a Body on and a Valve. Thats it....

Dont forget you need a Highpressure Output for a Mag. Something with a fast regulator (like Corssfire). Be aware that a Mag need more Air then a Cocker. The Mag is a Gas Hog........

But go and get one......They Ripp.....

Little_Ho

**AGD_kid** · April 18th, 08:38 AM

ho, your making an e-mag, or is that one you had before?