[BigEvil]

Guys,

Anyone with an E or Xmag really needs to check out this thread at the TAG forums and drop Bob a line telling him that this is a good idea.

Here is the link to the post
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And here is a poll I put up on AO
AO POLL - Predator drop in? Yeah or Nay

If you are not familiar with the awesome Predator Morlock and the other arse-kicking boards from TAG, check out their web page.

TAG

[t33kyboy]

Eh, If the price was right... could use some break beam eyes.

But I would rather wait for the new firmware(sp?), it would be a lot cheaper then buying a new board and has some cool features... like chrono mode!

[AGD_kid]

well Jay really isn't sure yet about the price. right now 20-160 is the range.

[t33kyboy]

$160 for a god damn flash...

[AGD_kid]

it may need a new board or something to handle all the stuff.

[BigEvil]

Here is what Bob from TAG has had to say:

"Find me 50 people that will preorder and I will start the run of our Emag design"

"..our target price for all of our boards is in the 160 range. 100 for the code and 60 for the delivery system."

"So...yea.....get the interest and lets find out what features and desires are needed by the owners and we can start the ball rolling. I will run 100 of these and that is it. Why a short number? I have one tech at my shop that can handle the tech support for your mags and I will not run a project that we cannot devote the same type of tech support to that we offer our other clients. I think that is the fair way to do it.

If I see the interest I will the guys throw up a preorder link and we will go from there. Once we have about 50 gone I will run the order. If we cannot meet that demand then we will just make the refunds. We have a new board house and they have delivered all of our new projects in 3 weeks on the dot. This gives us a week for programming and testing each board before it is shipped.

Do you think the user would like the ability to use break beam eyes? Should we include a port on the board for that as well? Our current design only offers reflective eye logic or EYE off mode"

I realize that folks will start beating their chest about how the mag does not need break beam eye with L10 or the stock product is best but we look at the overall needs of an individual product and its owner. When we look at a project we never take the position of "its the best product made so it does not need anything to make it better". If this was the case we would all have sore index fingers from cocking our nelspots.

Do you need all of our firing modes? Naaaa. But if you plan on playing CFOA and PSP they might help. If you play where the sky is the limit then rock and roll baby. For those that start whining about shooting anything other than true semi is destroying the sport please complain somewhere else because I stopped listening as soon as I had a chance to watch a 15bps ramping game. Times are changing and why not take your favorite gun with you? For the recond my mags work every time I take them out and that sounds like a great gun to rely on in ANY situation.....right?

So lets see if we can get some interest. If we cant.....no problem. I will still do it eventually

For those that want to start a cheerleading attack because someone else is coming out with a board or code we dont want to hear that either. Our products are designed for a specific player/owner so we are not concerned with what other people are doing. We are only concerned with how ours performs and that we can offer the support that is needed to keep our clients happy."

[BigEvil]

For those of you infamiliar with it,
Here is al list of features for the Predator Morlock: (Predator II is the same only the connectors are a little different). A drop-in board for the emags will be similar, but with perhaps a few more or less features.

Marker too slow? Tired of having reflective eyes, or no eyes at all?
Tired of that guy with the ramping marker always out shooting you?

Your troubles are over.

Enter the Predator II. The most advanced board ever to grace the frame
of a paintball marker. Able to run any single 'noid marker, the
the Pred II is as versatile as it is advanced.

Instant boot-up No delay in firing the marker once the on/off switch has been activated.
Trigger sampled asynchronously The predator does not "sample" the trigger as other boards do.
Built in accessory port This will trigger a hopper or other feeding device.
Simple trigger programming No need to remove the grips to make slight corrections in programming.
The board has a built in tournament lock to eliminate the trigger programming.
9volt battery operation Easy to find and never needs recharging.
Multiple firing modes Standard Modes:
Semi Auto
Full Auto
Auto Response

AFA Modes (board must be in semi for these to be selected):
1 = No enhancements (default)
2 = AFA 1 (AntiTriggerBounce drops slowly)
3 = AFA 2 (ATB drops rapidly and shots are added)
4 = AFA 3 (First 3 shots are semi, the 4th shot is full auto until the trigger is released.
If the trigger is released for more than 1 second the cycle starts over again.)
5 = AFA 4 (limited rate of fire tournament mode) The first 3 shots are standard semi
then on the 4th shot the gun will ramp to 15bps as long as the trigger is being held.
If the trigger is released for more than 1 second the cycle starts over again.
6 = AFA 5 (Full auto first shot then smooth ramping)
7 = AFA 6 (Full auto first shot then fast ramping)

To change a firing mode the tournament lock must be turned off on the board.
You must then enter program mode by turning the gun on while holding the trigger.
It is then necessary to pull the trigger 7 times to enter register 7 (afa) and finally
select the AFA mode you wish to use. Before the new mode can be used the gun must either
be turned off and back on or you must enter register 1 mode 1 for the board to reset itself.
We have made this slightly difficult for a reason. Unlike many other custom board
manufacturers we do not produce "cheater" boards regardless of your teams status in the industry.

Ultra fine "anti trigger bounce" settings More trigger control that any other board in the industry.
Anti Bolt Stick You control the dwell increase and the time it takes to activate.
Dual EYE capable Reflective or Break Beam. You get more options with a Predator.
Life Time Upgrades It takes only a minute for us to exchange your board with with
the newest OS. No need to purchase upgrades.


I put one of these in my Angel LED and it WILL out shoot anything on the field. That includes my cousins A4 and my friends Shocker. This board is simply amazing.

The Predator Morlock is a DIY kit. It is made for universal aplication. So basically, you have to figure it out, and at your own risk.

What I proposed to TAG, the people who make it, is a ready-to-go-drop-in board for the Emag series of paintball guns. This eliminates many of the difficulties that are inherent to wiring an emag, such as the HES, the Xmag ACE, and the fact that AGD decided to ground everything to the frame.

Plus, it will aslo support BREAK-BEAM EYES. Of course, you would have to get the machine work done for this, but if you are willing to live with the LVL10 or have an XMAG with the ACE then you wouldnt need to do anything else other than open up your grip frame and plug the board in.

I have been nothing but impressed with this product and am drooling over putting one in one of my mags. I have another Predator Morlock DIY kit on the way for my e-tac. If TAG makes a drop in board, I will be ordering one for my Xmag

[BigEvil]

Originally Posted by t33kyboy

$160 for a god damn flash...

Hey, he is going through all of the trouble of funding the developement of the new software, he will have to take responsability for getting it to work on customers guns, he will aslo be liable if anything goes wrong. Why shouldnt he make it worth his while?

This is of course, the reason why AGD abandoned the whole 4.xx software project. It wasnt worth the time or effort ot develope it, then go through all of the BS, only to charge $20 for it.