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Old July 22nd, 03:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hhhheeeellllpppp!!!!!!

: ok, i got my mag today and i need help! ok, i dont know if the level 10 is already installed. it came with a little baggie of gold colored thingys with black o-rings on them. and theres a littke plastic case with like 3 GIANT springs in it. WHAT ARE THESE THINGS???

I took my valve out and IT IS MASSIVE ok.. on the tip of the valve thing (where the bolt rests) there is a gold thing, its about 1/4 of an inch long. what is it?
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Old July 22nd, 03:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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WElcome to the world.

The baggie is a bunch of carriers. The LEvel 10 bolt is great. ITs downside the is O-ring that makes it functional. The Carriers "Carry" a special white O-ring.

See, each batch of O-rigns has different tolerances, and each one is a bit different. In order to compensate, the folks down at AGD came up witht he idea of providing you with different size carriers. This allows you to "tune in" to the right size carrier for your O-ring.

Theres 3 springs? Red bronze and silver. These are the bolt springs. Much like the bolt spring in your tippmann, except they are used the opposite way. If theres not a spring attached to the bolt (which should have been attached to the valve), you need to get one on there if you want it working right.

The gold thing is called the powertube tip. This is what holds the O-ring carrier in place.

For more information, you can AIM me (I logged off a few minutes ago becuase I had too many IMs for me to handle.. I just got back from vaca and am trying to clean up around here). My AIM is TheAlphaMag.

In the meantime while I do my forum cleaning, you can visit my site (www.TheAlphaMag.com) and check out the mag tech section. I have a detailed article (which is identical to the LX thread in this forum).
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Old July 22nd, 04:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ok thanks!

is my bolt supposed to have that rubber thingy in the front of it?
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Old July 22nd, 04:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah that's called a foamie. I'm not absolutely sure, but I believe its purpose is to add cushon to the force of the bolt.
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Old July 22nd, 04:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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correct.
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Old July 22nd, 06:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ok, thanks again

should i even run air through the asa, then to the front grip, back to the valve? or just connect macro from the asa to the valve?
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Old July 22nd, 07:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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totally up to you. I'm actually debating on getting a carbon fiber grip and doing that right now...
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Old July 22nd, 07:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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ok, what kind of valve should i gets? i want a valve with teh best efficientcy, and maby a little r/t bouncyness
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Old July 22nd, 07:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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What valve do you have right now?
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Old July 22nd, 07:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Reverse XValve.

Or just plain XValve.

It should have came with that, unless you bought used.
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Old July 22nd, 07:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i have an A.I.R. valve, whats a reverse xvalve?
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Old July 22nd, 07:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
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AIR Valves are the first valves ever made by agd.. They're the old classics.

The only worthqhile upgrade is an X-valve.

That means you'll need a new sear (possibly a new rail), on top of the valve. Teh valve will run you about $175 used, or about 300 new.
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Old July 22nd, 07:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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WAAAA!!!!!! thats alot! i'll probably stick with the a.i.r. valve
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Old July 22nd, 08:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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check AO for an old RT valve, close to 100 without lvl10.
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Old July 23rd, 10:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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That means you'll need a new sear (possibly a new rail), on top of the valve. Teh valve will run you about $175 used, or about 300 new.
Incorrect. I ran my x-valve with the stock AM/MM rail and classic sear just fine. If you don't believe me look at headley's mag ( ) It is an all out RT pro minus the classic sear and AM/MM rail
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Old July 23rd, 11:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
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You'd get the most out of it with an RT sear.
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Old July 23rd, 06:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179949

go for it.
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Old July 23rd, 06:58 PM   #18 (permalink)
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no money yet. i gotta spend this $132.00 that i have on an HPA tank, macro line fittings, macro line, and an elbow

but are there any mods i could do to make my mag more efficient?, faster? lighter trigger pull?
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nope.
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Old July 23rd, 07:50 PM   #20 (permalink)
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