WyrmMaster

sorry, i believe you are the retard.

A quick google search reveals that 68 cubic inches of air weighs about .003 lbs, at atmospheric pressure, or 14.7psi. Now, if you fill your tank to 4500 psi thats approximately 306 times atmospheric pressure. Multiple .003 lbs by 306 and you get about .9 lbs of air. Almost a pound. Pretty significant you ask me.

If you want to check me here are the sites i used.

http://www.allmeasures.com/Formulae/...82/density.htm
http://kids.earth.nasa.gov/archive/air_pressure/

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Javaman

You beat me to it Wyrm.
Huey, everything on the planet has weight except for a perfect vacuum. Helium only appears to be weightless only because it's mass is lighter then the other gasses in the atmosphere causing it to be pushed up to the top. Think of a beachball under water.

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Zedaine

Alright cool. So then putting a full hopper on the front of my mag makes it a tad front heavy (not much though) So then filling up my 3000 PSI tank should balance it out pretty well, maybe making it a TAD back heavy, but I say back heavy is better than being front heavy.

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W1ldK@t

Wyrm master ownage.

Yeah I would say backheavy is better than front, front is going to cause your arms to get tired faster.

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UnderDog

i use a warp. its actually pretty balanced. scares me

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MovingTarget

Actually air weighs quite a bit, my tank weight goes up by 1/3 when it is full

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sslecyk03

actually a nitro fill will be virtually the same in weight empty and full, co2 on the other hand is stored as a liquid, hence, it gets heavier when filled

themainevent

that describes my grandfather exactly, he is somewhat albino, and watches those to channels, and sometimes baseball, all day

xPiZZeRx

Ya, but they just proved that HPA tanks really do have an increase in weight once filed.

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sslecyk03

no they didnt, there info is bs, 1lb of gas my asshole.

TacoMagus

that thing is sweet

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WyrmMaster

show me what i did wrong. I may have made a mistake, but you just not believing that air has weight doesnt prove anything. I know for a fact that a full tank weighs more than an empty one, using the logic i used in my earlier post (air has a density at a standard pressure, more pressure = more air = more weight). Its possible i did a calculation wrong, so if you can find my mistake, then by all means do so.

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xPiZZeRx

Ok. It's Obvious. Air has weight. So when you have a full tank = more air than empty = an increase in weight.

Why doesn't somebody just weigh their tanks empty, and full.

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RRfireblade

K, I'll play along.

Full air and paint........

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sslecyk03

alright, you have ur weight at a given pressure and you are stating that that weight is a constant, thats wrong my friend, temperature also plays a huge role in increasing pressure. The higher the temperature the more pressure the tank will contain. Since you didnt state what the temperature was, it was probably at a constant temperature such as 0 degrees celcius, or 32 degrees fahrenheit. As you probably know, nitrogen tanks are much hotter than 0 degrees celcius after a fill, you can actually feel the warmth, this means the temp inside the bottle is more than the constant temperature that you stated. Since the increase in temp increases the pressure, there is no need to increase the pressure by adding more gas. This means that your information about the weight is substantially more than the weight of an average fill.

WyrmMaster

thats true, tempeture does play a roll, and i completly forgot about temp when i was writing my earlier post. So part of the 4500 psi is due to tempeture increase and not additional volume.

Also, something we both forgot, is that cooler air is more dense than warm air, so you lose a bit more volume there when you heat the air durring the fill.

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