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**UnderDog** · June 28th, 11:30 PM

well...im talking to my norcal friend loogie....and we get into the whole LP and HP debate, that goes downhill to him bashing mags, and you oldschoolers know i wont stand for this. so.....yeah. here is the proceedings. i just hope you guys know what youre getting into when you get a mag.
p8ntblr2k4life: i had a plastic traacer for a week then an a5 for like 2 months then my cocker for about 3 months and now i had my angel for about 2 months
JRCO 11: traacer, thats a copy of the black maxx....distributed by the same people
JRCO 11: lol
p8ntblr2k4life: and LP is better than HP in someways but if u think the disadvantages are worse then the advantages thats ur opinion its up 2 the individual 2 decide
JRCO 11: how is it better?
p8ntblr2k4life: i think LP is better
JRCO 11: in the few ways
p8ntblr2k4life: yeah
p8ntblr2k4life: but LP suks air
p8ntblr2k4life: i dun care my angel is efficient e nuff
p8ntblr2k4life: so that crosses out that con
JRCO 11: hey, ive shot one LP gun that was set up perfect (so perfect, everything was loctite redded) and it had great gas effciency, but it took him 1 year of constant tinkering to get to it
JRCO 11: it outshot my mag on the same tank (of course, the output was diffrent)
p8ntblr2k4life: yeah
p8ntblr2k4life: thats koo
p8ntblr2k4life: LP is better
p8ntblr2k4life: hahaha
JRCO 11: hp is better
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
JRCO 11: how is lp better, continue
p8ntblr2k4life: LP not put flat spot on ball
JRCO 11: ........
JRCO 11: thats so stupid
p8ntblr2k4life: and my angel not chop it just pinch balls
JRCO 11: hey, flatspots are put on balls over time and compression. not a sudden hit.
JRCO 11: my mag doesnt even pinch
p8ntblr2k4life: yeah
p8ntblr2k4life: wow
JRCO 11: my mag chuffs
p8ntblr2k4life: my angel wont either if i turn on sensi
JRCO 11: yeah, you ahve to deal with electronics
JRCO 11: can you submerge your gun in water and shoot?
p8ntblr2k4life: ummmm
p8ntblr2k4life: yes
p8ntblr2k4life: u can put it in dishwasher
JRCO 11: electronics and everything?
p8ntblr2k4life: yes
p8ntblr2k4life: halos also
JRCO 11: hmm......i should tell that to my angel owning friend
p8ntblr2k4life: yeah
JRCO 11: halos are hardcore, i like them
JRCO 11: but then again, i prolly shouldnt, he has the old angel
JRCO 11: LED
p8ntblr2k4life: i read about dishwasher thing on FON i never tried it personally
JRCO 11: it cant be healthy for it
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
p8ntblr2k4life: prolly no
JRCO 11: honestly, electronics hate water
p8ntblr2k4life: yeah
JRCO 11: LCD screens hate cleaners
JRCO 11: they like water and soft soap
p8ntblr2k4life: o
JRCO 11: not this "cut the fat" ****
p8ntblr2k4life: wat?
JRCO 11: dish detergents
p8ntblr2k4life: o
JRCO 11: i read a post by tom kaye
p8ntblr2k4life: u like cockers?
p8ntblr2k4life: whos tom kaye
JRCO 11: it is about bolt speed, not PSI
JRCO 11: the guy made mags and does a buncha tests for companies
p8ntblr2k4life: o
p8ntblr2k4life: hes gay
JRCO 11: you hear about the "testing" done by independant labs in paintball and stuff
JRCO 11: no hes not......what makes you think that?
p8ntblr2k4life: mags in general or people associated with mags are usually gay
JRCO 11: are you calling me gay?
p8ntblr2k4life: kinda
JRCO 11: loogie. if i ever meet you again, im gonna beat the crap outta you
JRCO 11: youre just a hype monkey
JRCO 11: and that pisses me off
p8ntblr2k4life: tell me about this testing
p8ntblr2k4life: tell me about the testing damnit
JRCO 11: what testing
JRCO 11: tom kaye, he does tests on stuff, brb, ill get you a link on the HP vs LP myth
p8ntblr2k4life: JRCO 11: you hear about the "testing" done by independant labs in paintball and stuff
JRCO 11: okay. you hear companies saying their stuff is tested by independant labs in the paintball industry (amongst the paintball industry)
p8ntblr2k4life: dude
p8ntblr2k4life: wtf
JRCO 11: nevermind
p8ntblr2k4life: u entered text
p8ntblr2k4life: but it not show u[
p8ntblr2k4life: up
JRCO 11: okay. you hear companies saying their stuff is tested by independant labs in the paintball industry (amongst the paintball industry)
p8ntblr2k4life: yeah
JRCO 11: AGD is usually the lab
JRCO 11: since "mags suck"
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
p8ntblr2k4life: they r aight
JRCO 11: mags were chosen to test the V-chip for halos
p8ntblr2k4life: i was just screwin wit ya
JRCO 11: 32 bps v-board testing
p8ntblr2k4life: i already seen it
p8ntblr2k4life: the mag just chop paint like mad
JRCO 11: not chopped
JRCO 11: barrel break
p8ntblr2k4life: cuz mags dont have eyes
JRCO 11: mags are incapable of chopping
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
p8ntblr2k4life: they can
JRCO 11: they can, but its rare
p8ntblr2k4life: so
p8ntblr2k4life: my angel is incapable
JRCO 11: no its not
JRCO 11: it still chops
p8ntblr2k4life: unless sensi turned off
JRCO 11: mags can chop, with an incorrectly set up lvl10 or lvl 7
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
p8ntblr2k4life: u r stupid
p8ntblr2k4life: mags r koo but not as good as u think they r
p8ntblr2k4life: they can be fast
JRCO 11: my mag is the ugliest peice of **** around
JRCO 11: hells yeah
p8ntblr2k4life: mags r only fast illegallt
p8ntblr2k4life: illegally
JRCO 11: my mag is heavy too. ill admit that. but thats because everything on there (cept the gripframe) is SS
JRCO 11: no
JRCO 11: mags are all tourny legal
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
JRCO 11: unless someone puts in a cheaterboard
p8ntblr2k4life: RT is not tourney legal
p8ntblr2k4life: u didnt kno response trigger aint legal
JRCO 11: yes it is
JRCO 11: thats a myth from the 90's
JRCO 11: good job stupid
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
p8ntblr2k4life: RT is illegal
JRCO 11: thats why aftershock used an RT Pro in NPPL for a little while
p8ntblr2k4life: it is considered trigger bounce
p8ntblr2k4life: in pan am its illegal
p8ntblr2k4life: and here in west coast we play pan am
JRCO 11: youre stupid
JRCO 11: you really are
JRCO 11: mags are in no way illegal
p8ntblr2k4life: yes
p8ntblr2k4life: RT on ne gun is illegal
p8ntblr2k4life: check official NPPL rulebook
JRCO 11: its not a REACTIVE TRIGGER
JRCO 11: thats not what RT stands for
p8ntblr2k4life: u stoopid
p8ntblr2k4life: verrryyyyy stoopid
JRCO 11: why, because the mags trigger isnt reactive?
JRCO 11: where in cali are you?
p8ntblr2k4life: im nor cal
p8ntblr2k4life: around SAC
p8ntblr2k4life: u
p8ntblr2k4life: where u in florida
JRCO 11: look. the RT stands for Response
JRCO 11: im not in flordia
JRCO 11: im in tennessee
p8ntblr2k4life: lol
JRCO 11: jad is in flordia
p8ntblr2k4life: response
p8ntblr2k4life: i kno
p8ntblr2k4life: i didnt mean reactive
JRCO 11: reactive triggers are illegal, you know why?
JRCO 11: because they shoot with the trigger pull and release
p8ntblr2k4life: yes
p8ntblr2k4life: duh
p8ntblr2k4life: so r response
JRCO 11: the response has a sweetspot, much like your angel does
JRCO 11: no
p8ntblr2k4life: my angel got no sweet spot
JRCO 11: the response just kicks the trigger back into the ready position. mags dont have springs or magnets to return the trigger, so they just kick it back out with the pressure
p8ntblr2k4life: it true
p8ntblr2k4life: u outnumbered
JRCO 11: no im not
JRCO 11: god, come into the chatroom im in
p8ntblr2k4life: ok
JRCO 11: even people who dont have mags are pro-mag
JRCO 11: know why?
JRCO 11: because mags are the fastest gun out there
JRCO 11: and youre going to laugh, i know
JRCO 11: but your gun cant get 32 cps with no dropoff
p8ntblr2k4life: lol
p8ntblr2k4life: yes
p8ntblr2k4life: it can
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
p8ntblr2k4life: nvm
p8ntblr2k4life: its 31
p8ntblr2k4life: its optimized at 31
JRCO 11: the mags valve recharge rate is .025 seconds
p8ntblr2k4life: so
JRCO 11: thats fast
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
p8ntblr2k4life: its not
JRCO 11: that equates to around full recharge 40 times per second
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
p8ntblr2k4life: it does
p8ntblr2k4life: but mags r illegal
JRCO 11: no its not
p8ntblr2k4life: yeah
p8ntblr2k4life: RT is illegal
p8ntblr2k4life: it is
p8ntblr2k4life: it is
p8ntblr2k4life: it is
p8ntblr2k4life: so is dye clothing and jt 04 pants
p8ntblr2k4life: in pan am
JRCO 11: response isnt illgeal. reactive is
p8ntblr2k4life: yes
p8ntblr2k4life: response is
JRCO 11: do you know what repsonse is?
p8ntblr2k4life: yes
JRCO 11: what
p8ntblr2k4life: it is a kinda trigger that uses air to kickback trigger instead of spring or magnet i got one in my a5
JRCO 11: thats REACTIVE TRIGGER
JRCO 11: not a response
p8ntblr2k4life: no
p8ntblr2k4life: its not
JRCO 11: yes, it is
p8ntblr2k4life: its a response
JRCO 11: im sorry
p8ntblr2k4life: no
JRCO 11: its reactive
p8ntblr2k4life: it isnt
JRCO 11: mags only have response
p8ntblr2k4life: look
p8ntblr2k4life: look u moron
JRCO 11: im done with you loogie
JRCO 11: just shut up about this
p8ntblr2k4life: nah
JRCO 11: neither of us is going to win
p8ntblr2k4life: im right
JRCO 11: aftershock used a mag for a long time
p8ntblr2k4life: omfg
p8ntblr2k4life: im right

sslecyk03 · June 28th, 11:36 PM

that kids sounds like a pain in the ass

**UnderDog** · June 29th, 12:09 AM

he is. he invites me to a chat and is all "mags suck nuts" etc. god. i wanna beat him with the brick that is my SS mag!

**SpYdErGuY7080** · June 29th, 12:15 AM

what a retard, not all dye clothing is illegall too. That kid obviously knows nothing about mags and most paintball in general.

**UnderDog** · June 29th, 11:07 AM

he keeps trying to refute his state by being all "its like this in pan am"

little does he know, my local field is a buncha Cali boys and they use pan am rules. so i know hes speaking crock and myths from the 90's. YAY!

**dhill0413** · July 6th, 04:48 PM

you shouldnt get so worked up over the internet....just be content knowing your mag is better than his angel

**UnderDog** · July 6th, 04:58 PM

when i get worked up. people die!

**Impy28190** · July 6th, 05:19 PM

wow, thats so long i'm not reading it

**CmaN3** · July 6th, 07:09 PM

actually my cousin has a response trigger in his a-5. it does not shoot on pull and release. It kicks back the trigger. I have shot it i know. Other than that i totally agree with ya man!

**Gabriot** · July 6th, 07:13 PM

You're right on most things but the A-5 Trigger actually is a response trigger. It's not the same as the Automags though.

**inkjt510** · July 6th, 07:19 PM

Why is dye clothing and jt pants illegal?

**micflint001** · July 8th, 09:54 AM

they did have something about the dye clothing not being able to play with it in tourneys i know red it in the facefullmagazine but i think they fixed that problem

**woodsy44** · July 8th, 10:07 AM

yeah they just told the ppl to take out the padding in the shoulders right?? And that kid really seems like he knew alot

**UnderDog** · July 8th, 11:37 AM

honestly. reactive trigges shoot on the pull and release, not response.

well. woodsy, i dunno who your talking about. but i hope its me! lol

ive blocked this kid. made me sick.

**micflint001** · July 8th, 11:49 AM

yep WOODSY is right about the padding in the shoulders i think it was something about balls wouldnt splat when they hit the padding so yea

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