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June 29th, 12:26 PM
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X-valve questions
I'm new to mags and dont know much about them but I was wondering if somebody could give me a good explination of what they do. Also, stupid question, they are tourney legal, right?
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June 29th, 02:32 PM
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yeah. they are tourny legal.
what they do is they use air or some sort of pressure (im rusty here guys.) to kick the trigger back out into your fingers. people will say they are illegal, but that is a myth from the 90's because they were reaching unheard-of speeds back when it was the ALL SS Retro-valve, so people started saying they were cheating and illegal. but its not. everyone says it has a reactive trigger, its not a reactive. its a response. so yeah.
any other info?
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June 29th, 02:58 PM
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thanks, that helps a lot. anybody else have something to add?
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June 29th, 09:06 PM
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air goes through the reg and valve and pushes on the bolt pin and kind of pops it forward like a cork out of a champagne bottle, then the spring on the bolt returns it. very simple operation
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July 12th, 03:05 PM
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i thought id ask this in here rather then make a new thread...
Whats the difference between an x-valve and a retro valve?
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July 12th, 03:41 PM
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nothing. the x-valve is aluminum, the retro is SS. oh and the X-valve is ULE trigger compatible
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July 12th, 05:41 PM
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the xvalve costs more than the retro although the xvalve cost less to produce than the retro. horrible...
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July 12th, 05:58 PM
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it doesnt cost less. it costs the same. they are the exact same valve!
the retro is cheaper because its old.
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July 12th, 06:00 PM
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 i thought SS was harder to shape, therefore its more expensive. Aluminum is softer so its easier to produce. therefore cheaper??? |
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July 12th, 06:01 PM
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SS is harder too. but to a carbide cutting tip....they're really the same
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July 12th, 06:23 PM
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oh ok. good to know.
but what about SS barrels? why are they more expensive than aluminum then?
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July 12th, 06:24 PM
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because SS is smoother than aluminum. and people like smooth stuff. so...they can charge what they want on the SS barrels
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July 12th, 06:26 PM
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thats ridiculous!
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July 12th, 06:28 PM
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eh. its economics. Stainless steel is smoother than aluminum. manufacturers know this. so they jack up the prices on SS
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July 12th, 07:15 PM
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x-valve, being aluminum, is also lighter than the retro valve. And to alot of ppl lighter = better. Thats why its more expensive. And as mentioned before, it doesnt have to be milled for ULT like the retro.
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July 12th, 09:10 PM
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ALSO- the X-Valve comes with the Level 10. The Retro doesn't, right?
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July 15th, 09:03 PM
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well, the retro isnt made anymore. so it doesnt really matter whether or not it doesnt. i do believe it came with one before the X-valve came out. but that was only for like a month or two. IF That
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July 17th, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dhill0413
i thought id ask this in here rather then make a new thread...
Whats the difference between an x-valve and a retro valve?
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xvalve is 3oz lighter and has LX stock.
retro is all steel no LX and u can not install a ULT without heavy mods (drill a hole bigger).
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