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November 26th, 08:02 PM
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Nope, at least not internally.
I don't have like a dallara or anything. But the internals and tuning are unbeatable, really. Tie-able. Maybe.
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November 26th, 08:21 PM
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Well, i guess mine is tuned a little better 
Do you have a adjustable tank? That can help you fine tune it a little better.
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November 26th, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMacDude
8 is fast on a mech... i REALLY don't see how more is possible. My friends cant beat 9, on it.
Any chance you could do a movie or a sound clip of it?
PS I'm talking solely about mags here. Your info says you have a TES, but you seem to be talking about an RTP. Just making sure, we are both talking mags here, right?
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Yeah its the Mag listed in my Sig, forgot to change it in my profile. Now not sure if it matters but with the intelligrip I could only do about 9 but when I changed to the Y-grip I get 12-13, not sure if its because the hand is more natural or what.
As for sound/vid, I don't have a digital movie/video camera, actually had to borrow a digital camera to post a pic of the Mag, and I don't even know of any friends with a video camera, I can ask and see if any of there dig. cameras have the ability to do short clips.
BTW this was done over the Red-type chrono at the field I shoot at.
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November 26th, 08:26 PM
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Do you have a adjustable tank? That can help you fine tune it a little better.
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Touchè, t33key. But 800 psi really is the best input pressure I have found, even when using borrowed adjustables.
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November 26th, 08:32 PM
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http://zakvetter.com/Pages/Paintball...apid-fire.html
Doh.
By the way i'm talking NO bounce in this 8 bps. With bounce 12-13 easy. Runaway, 19 or so.
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November 26th, 08:40 PM
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I thought runaway was the same thing as bounce...
Trust me, there is no bounce on my gun.
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November 26th, 08:41 PM
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Actually, i've found that 850-900 psi is the best input pressure, IMO. I guess it comes down to what kinda trigger you like... of course, isn't that kinda the main reason we own mags? Each one fits it's user, and only it's user 
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November 26th, 08:48 PM
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Bounce is when you can get 2-3 shots to a pull, because there is a lot of reactivity, but its not insane. This is still illegal.
Runaway is when you basically apply any presure to the trigger and it goes full auto.
Headley, would you not agree more than 8 bps on a mech mag is not really an accurate statement? It can be reached, but sustained? no.
I want a hAIr - like thing to come out so these discussions end.
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November 26th, 08:54 PM
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Yeah, bounce is the same thing as runaway.. well atleast on a mag.
And theres no reactivity on a ULT, or not enough to get bounce/runaway.
I should s0o get a rep. point...
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November 26th, 09:02 PM
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too bad we dont use the rep point system anymore I couldn't give you one if i wanted to. Though why they're still near our names is beyond me. I should read the mod section more 
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November 26th, 09:16 PM
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My ULT was tuned by AGD (ordered the option when I ordered my RTCP), I don't get any bounce and never had it runaway. I use a preset crossfire tank (not sure exact pressure believe it is either 800 or 850 PSI). I know changing to the Y-Grip, not removing the on/off so it should make no difference as far as that goes, just changes hand position, but when I switched I did get about 4 bps more. I think that though is because my hand seems to be in a more natural position so I can fire quicker.
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November 26th, 09:40 PM
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Yeah, bounce is the same thing as runaway.. well atleast on a mag.
And theres no reactivity on a ULT, or not enough to get bounce/runaway.
I should s0o get a rep. point...
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Add more shims. Runaway will come. Even at 800 psi.
For my mag, 1 shim has no reactivity, 3 is just right, and 3+ 2 LX shims (7 total ULT shims), i get runaway.
I should get that rep point.
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November 26th, 10:11 PM
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Right...
So from what I've heard, if you put that many shims in, you can only shoot in runaway and not in semi. I did not do that.
Let me rephrase my original comment... A properly tuned ULE Trigger does not have enough reactivity to allow it to have bounce/runaway.
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November 26th, 10:21 PM
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Agreed 
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