chrisw91

what is the difference? pros and cons? your opinions? price?

martix_agent

depends what marker your' using. anything that uses an electro pneumatic system MUST use HPA(or VERY strictly regulated co2...it costs more to do this than to actually buy a hpa tank) If your'e using a spyder/spyder clone, or tippman, stick with co2, it's cheaper.

if you want more information, check the stickies (the top threads in this section.)

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chrisw91

i got the spyder vs1, i figured it was the best option just incase i decided to switch or something because i can use co2 or hpa

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HPA

Pro:
-It is a warmer gas, and therefore it doesn't need to expand. This will increase marker performance in cold weather.
-It is a cleaner gas, and therefore will cause less clogs in your marker lines.
-It is highly efficient, and will cause less velocity drop-offs and spikes.
-It is usually free to fill at fields/tournaments.

Con:
-The tanks are more expensive.
-The bottles are bigger, and will take some getting used to.

CO2

Pro:
-The tanks cost less to purchase.
-The tanks are smaller, therefore are easier to handle.

Con:
-It is cold, and therefore requires time to expand. This creates the need for an expansion chamber for optimum performance. Also, since it is cold, it creates velocity drop-offs and spikes.
-When the tank is on the marker, and the marker is pointed towards the ground, liquid CO2 will enter the marker and build-up in the chamber. It will then expand and cause erratic velocities.
-It is very dirty, and therefore can cause clogs in your marker's lines.

After having experience with both gasses, I'd reccomend buying an HPA tank; even a Pure Energy Steel HPA tank (heavy and easily damaged) over CO2.

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chrisw91

ok, but the only problem with that is i just paly intermediately out back woods ball. there are no courses or anything around where i live. so where could i buy it? does it cost more than co2? and (high pressure air) sounds like it just comes out of an air compressor.

martix_agent

it does come out of an air compressor, but the compressors cost $1500+.
you can buy a bulk CO2 tank and fill smaller tanks with it. the stickies should cover what you need to do that and how to as well.

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chrisw91

wait, i can fill and hpa tank with a large co2 tank?

martix_agent

no. fill a co2 tank with co2 from a bulk co2 tank.

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chrisw91

alright, im not being a smart ass or anything but, what does that have to do with hpa? i dont have any problems getting co2. if thats what you were thinking.

taylorg

i have a big air comprassor in my shed could i buy a adapter to fill tanks

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not unless it puts out 3000 psi

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chrisw91

can u please reply?

martix_agent

what more information do you want?

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chrisw91

what were u getting to when u told me to buy a bulk co2 tank to fill my small ones?

martix_agent

I think will help you out quite a bit. it appears to be for HPA only though.
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1728600

I have no idea what is needed to fill froma bulk co2 tank. Maybe you can ask whoever you know who fills it how they do it.

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Using CO2 in your VS1 is fine, leave it like that and be happy unless you already have an HPA tank.

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