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Old February 21st, 2012, 08:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New to Paintball, Have questions about CO2

Okay so I recently bought a 20oz Co2 tank for a paintball gun I got from my friend and I'm not sure what's going on. My shots really spread out when I shoot and white smoke comes out of the gun and the gun gets really cold. Am I doing something wrong?

I'm also not firing fast, I shot one round every second and it smoked up already.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 08:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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this is normal.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 08:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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this is normal.
So a compressed air tank would be the same but without the white smoke correct?
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Old February 21st, 2012, 11:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Compressed air (Or HPA) will be more consistent in velocity, will be easier on your marker, will not have that white smoke after shots, and will not "freeze up" your marker like co2 will. Also, if you plan to upgrade to a better marker, almost all mid-high end markers will only use HPA.
The shots spreading have nothing to do with the air source, that stems from your barrel. Do you just have the stock barrel on your marker??
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 12:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Compressed air (Or HPA) will be more consistent in velocity, will be easier on your marker, will not have that white smoke after shots, and will not "freeze up" your marker like co2 will. Also, if you plan to upgrade to a better marker, almost all mid-high end markers will only use HPA.
The shots spreading have nothing to do with the air source, that stems from your barrel. Do you just have the stock barrel on your marker??
I have a 16" J&J Ceramic Barrel and it's put on a Tippmann 98 Custom.

Also, what kind of Compressed Air Tank should I get? Whats the difference between 48ci w/ 3000 psi and 72ci w/ 4500 psi and so on?
And is there a way for my marker not to spit out the white smoke? I played with the co2 tank one day and the first couple games it would spew out but after that it went away. So I'm not sure what was going on lol. I kind of regret spending money on it. I knew 20 bucks was too good to be true.

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I have a 16" J&J Ceramic Barrel and it's put on a Tippmann 98 Custom.
It probably has to do with your paint more than your barrel. Check it for inconsistencies like dimples.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 12:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Also, what kind of Compressed Air Tank should I get? Whats the difference between 48ci w/ 3000 psi and 72ci w/ 4500 psi and so on?
Ninja tanks are usually the most suggested but if you find a good deal see if they can put a ninja regulator on it.

3000psi tanks are usually aluminum and heavier than the 4500psi tanks which are usually carbon fibered wrapped. the ci stands for cubic inches so thats how big it is. So a 48ci 3000psi is not going to hold as much 68ci/4500psi.

Its suggested to save up for the 4500psi tanks and just use CO2 if your marker allows or rent tanks.
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Switching to air will make your shots more consistent and stop almost all of the white smoke.

The 48 size will get you about 500 shots. The 72 will get about 720 shots but is much heavier. I would recommend a 48 and then save up for a carbon fiber tank.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 03:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have a 16" J&J Ceramic Barrel and it's put on a Tippmann 98 Custom.

Also, what kind of Compressed Air Tank should I get? Whats the difference between 48ci w/ 3000 psi and 72ci w/ 4500 psi and so on?
And is there a way for my marker not to spit out the white smoke? I played with the co2 tank one day and the first couple games it would spew out but after that it went away. So I'm not sure what was going on lol. I kind of regret spending money on it. I knew 20 bucks was too good to be true.
its not the marker that is making it smoke its just an atmospheric reaction

heres what happens, CO2 is stored in the tank as a liquid, as it boils and expands into a gas it goes through an endothermic reaction (fancy term that just means, "as it expands, it cools down") this is why your marker "cools down" as you play, when the cold co2 is shot out the barrel of your marker to propel the paintball it collides with the air outside the marker, this air has some moisture in it (like a sponge) the cold co2 cools the air around it and when this happens the moisture is squeezed out of the air which makes it visible to your eye. in scientific terms it lowers the saturation point of the air around it. HPA will do this much less because it does not go through the same endothermic reaction that co2 does, HPA does expand a little coming from 3k or 4500psi to the markers operating pressure so it is cooled a little. on a day when there is enough moisture in the air you can still get clouds from shooting HPA, CO2 is typically much worse but the phenomenon is not just restricted to CO2. On a day when there is not much moisture in the air you may not see the cloud as much and probably what happened on the day you were playing is it warmed up during the day, this moves the saturation point of the air up which means in order to see the cloud again you have to cool it down a lot

long, but i hope that helps
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The thing is, the white smoke is coming out of the cocking bolt hole too and the smell is coming to my face and fogs my view. It's kinda annoying. I'm kind of tight on money right now too so I don't think I'll get a compressed air tank anytime soon. I wish I figured out about how terrible co2 was before I got a tank.. Thanks though guys.
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co2 isn't terrible, it's just not as stable as compressed air.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 01:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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co2 isn't terrible, it's just not as stable as compressed air.
It is if you use liquid CO2 but I'm not going to open that can of worms again.
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I always wanted to try shooting one of those older markers that required liquid Co2 to shoot
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The thing is, the white smoke is coming out of the cocking bolt hole too and the smell is coming to my face and fogs my view. It's kinda annoying. I'm kind of tight on money right now too so I don't think I'll get a compressed air tank anytime soon. I wish I figured out about how terrible co2 was before I got a tank.. Thanks though guys.
again, its just because of the weather when you are playing, thats moisture in the air, nothing to do with the CO2
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It is if you use liquid CO2 but I'm not going to open that can of worms again.
Gas is gas, and CO2 only does damage in liquid form inside your marker. An easy solution is a anti siphon tube, or remote line. These make a huge difference and they only cost $20-$50. I dont recommend CO2 for tournament players, but if you're an attendee to a local field on weekends then CO2 will do the job for less $. But after a year or so you could upgrade to the more expensive HPA tank.
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