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**FluidLiquidFlow** · August 8th, 11:17 AM

We want to make our own CO2 fill station to save us some money on air.Ive heard its VERY cheap to fill up Scuba Tanks.But besides the scuba tank,I know we need the hoses and all the gauges.Well where can I get all this stuff from?! Is there a site I can order it off of or any stores you know might have them?This info would be greatly appreciated...

**Cooper** · August 8th, 11:44 AM

I'd say buy it, they are only $80, if that much, and you really need to be trained on how to use them, also. But, they pay for themselves after the second tank refill. Big tank, that is. My team actually gets our air for free, pretty much, we sell air at $2's a pop for any tank, and that pays for our refills.

**Cerebeus** · August 8th, 12:11 PM

You can't fill co2 from a scuba tank. You'll have to get a bulk co2 tank and a fill station. Scuba tanks are for filling HPA bottles.

**FluidLiquidFlow** · August 8th, 04:15 PM

O cerebus thanks for clearing that up for me...Wow,I was greatly mistaken then.I dont have a place to keep those big tanks they have to fill CO2.I guess our plan for this wont work.

**paintbug** · August 8th, 05:36 PM

you can get a smaller 20lbs co2 tank thats not much if any bigger than a scuba tank. you will need to get a fill station which to buy one you are looking at about $50 to piece together you are looking at about $50 so either way you dont save $$ there. you will also need a set of good digital scales that reads oz,not lbs. most fish scales work great for this.

**Cooper** · August 8th, 06:23 PM

Using those you just weigh the tank before fill, and it should hit 20 after, right? Of course, if your using the Co2 that day, you can always squeeze just a little more into it. Because your using it, it wouldn't hurt the tank, but if your just filling it up for a game a few days away DON'T you'll blow a valve.

**Cerebeus** · August 8th, 10:25 PM

You fill the tank a bit to get it cold... then release that pressure. Then put the empty tank on the scale and tare it so it reads 0. Then you fill it up to about 2 - 3 oz less than what the tank says ie 17 oz or so in a 20 oz tank, 9-10 for a 12 oz tank. Even if you're using it that game. ***There's no need to overfill just because you're about to use it.*** I cannot stress this enough.... BE SAFE!!!! Just refill it after the game if you need to. But make sure the tank is EMPTY before you put it on the scale to weigh the fill.

***wyopaintballer*** · March 2nd, 05:54 PM

i have a 50lbs bottle and just wanted to know if you always need a syphoned bottle because the guy i got it form says you do. something to do with not getting any liquid co2 in your tank or gun.

**paintbug** · March 2nd, 11:01 PM

yes and no. if you dont have a syphon tube you cant get the liquid into the tank like he said, but all you have to do is flip the tank. that can be a huge pain for a 50lbs tank since they weigh about 300lbs (dont quote me)

but they are heavy.

***wyopaintballer*** · March 4th, 12:57 AM

but you don't want liquid co2 to get in your gun right, so it really doesn't matter, if you don't have a syphon would it be ok to fill your smaller tanks, or can co2 be in a all gas state and it would matter what you had because of no liquid?

Torch · March 4th, 01:33 AM

To fill a CO2 bottle you must fill it from a siphon tank. You fill the tank by the wieght of the liquid flowing into it. Running your marker on gas CO2 or Liquid is a matter of what marker it is, and what you need it to do performance wise. There are several threads on this, one is running the top of this part of the forum right now.

**tmaxx_2.5** · March 4th, 07:09 AM

not necessarily, my fill station doesn't have a bottle with a dip tube in it, so we just tilt it upside down on a rack, and fill the tanks that way.

As for builing a fill station, just go buy one, its a whole lot easier, i think we got mine for $30 somethin..

Goldpanner · July 12th, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by paintbug

yes and no. if you dont have a syphon tube you cant get the liquid into the tank like he said, but all you have to do is flip the tank. that can be a huge pain for a 50lbs tank since they weigh about 300lbs (dont quote me)

but they are heavy.

I wouldn't flip the tank, for one it's dangerous and two all the crud at the bottom of the tank will now be forced into your smaller tanks, if you get a tank with a siphon tube in it, the tank will be clearly marked showing it has that tube running down to about 6 inches off the bottom of the tank or so.

And an empty CO2 50 lb tank weighs about 104 to 109 pounds, just read the top part of the tank when you get it, it will be labled TW 104 or TW 109.3 or what ever, mine average 104 to 109 empty, and if you add the 50 lbs of CO2 when it is full your looking at 154 to 159 pounds, still heavy but not 300 bls, even though it feels like that

Oh and the TW stands for Tare weight.

You don't want to use a regular CO2 tank that is used for soda machines or for beer kegs, they have no siphon tube and all you'd be doing is putting the gas part of CO2 in the bottle, you'd have to turn the tank over to allow the liquid part to get into your tank, and the crud would go along with that, and you don't want that scale and dirt and garbage going thru your marker.

it's easy and pretty cheap to rent a tank and get it filled, we rent ours for 5 years for 125.00 and it costs us 31.00 including tax to get an exchange on a filled one, it works out to about 5 to 8 cents an ounce to refill our own tanks, we bought a real good accurate scale off ebay that shows ounces, and a brass eagle deluxe refill station with dual valves and a exhaust that comes in handy on the ears, kit ran about 50.00, the scale about 20.00, the scale has a nice bottle holder to keep it from rolling off the scale and it's accurate to 1/10th of an ounce, more then enough for filling tanks. the fish scale at wally world works good but if your gonna fill a lot of tanks get a good bench unit.

hope this helps

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