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**jaggy13** · June 11th, 12:29 AM

I just did a mini conversion on my turtled oracle thought I would share the process incase anyone is thinking about it.

First I started off by threading the air port further in so that after it was cut down, I would not have to start new threads. Then I chopped down the front just after ASA air hole. I took a little time with a file to get the final cut level from all sides.

next I added the mini front block w/ 15* ASA

Next I had to shorten and tap the pump arm. This was actually the most challenging part.

Tapping it was easy, but actually making it fit was the challenge. A pump arm has 2 bends as most of you know. so that the force from the ram can be transfered in a straight line for the back block. This pump arm is extreemly short. and it did not line up quite right. I had to bend it alot to get it to funtion correctly. With that short of an arm, it had to be very precise.
The end result I think was worth it. no leaks and its ripping just like it was before I started.

Before

After

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I made a snatch grip out of some leftover aluminum too. can be seen in the last pic.

***DarkTamer*** · June 11th, 12:36 AM

Seeing as you did that all by yourself, that's pretty sick, but I personally wouldn't spend money mini'ing a turtle cocker... It only takes off about 1/2" off of an already tiny gun!!

***Mint*** · June 11th, 12:44 AM

Man I couldnt do that if my life depended on it. Nice job

!

**Fubar2** · June 11th, 01:11 AM

wow that is hot as hell. how does it shoot.

**jaggy13** · June 11th, 01:21 AM

before the mini conversion... ropes!
we shall see tomorrow.

drktamer, but an inch and a half. the cool thing is that it just moves the matics in closer. doesn't effect feel or function. only shaved about an ounce. But when it comes to markers. I am a bit of a minimalist.

As soon as I get the MQ, I may midget the back too. we shall see.

**proto** · June 11th, 12:13 PM

man that thing nice, i always wanted a cocker like that

**MP11** · June 11th, 12:29 PM

One of the nicest looking cockers I've seen. You did a good job on the conversion. Will you be doing this for the public aswell?

-Mike

**bobide** · June 11th, 12:41 PM

i agree, that's very sexy. But i am going to file this under excessive and crazy. I mean, come on, it took me a good 30seconds of staring to determine if it actually did anything.

**jaggy13** · June 11th, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MP11

One of the nicest looking cockers I've seen. You did a good job on the conversion. Will you be doing this for the public aswell?

-Mike

I have a teammate that we are going to convert a 04 vert to a halfblock mini.
This one I just picked up and was already turtled, but I have full confidence that we can do the entire job ourselves.

I would consider "hooking someone up" but I don't plan on taking in alot of them. I am doing all the work by hand as aposed to using a mill, so the slightest slip up could endup in damaged ano. If someone was truely in need, I can install eblades, drill eye holes, do mini conversions, and soon hopefully do a half block conversion. (that will require anodizing though.)

Bobide,
I would agree that a mini conversion is not for everyone and would problably fall under prefference. I was able to get the total weight (gun/reg/asa) down to 2lb 7oz. making it one of the lightest functional electro cockers I have seen. (MQ should drop another ounce or more. too.) I love the mini, and feel that every cocker should be this way. Others have the exact oposite feeling.

thanks for the feedback guys, I can't wait to mow faces with it tomorrow.

**CoolHipJim56** · June 11th, 11:55 PM

Nice gun man, how long did the entire process take?

prostock05 · June 11th, 11:57 PM

i love it, a very nice cocker

**jaggy13** · June 12th, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolHipJim56

Nice gun man, how long did the entire process take?

got the tap in, look at it for 2 days before I got the courage up to actually start cutting.
the first cut took about 10 minutes with a hacksaw.
about another 20 minutes with a file and square to get a 90* from all sides.
another 5 with some 2000 grit sand paper and some polish to avoid corosion. (and make it shiney)
The pump arm chewed up and spit out the first die I tried to use. (stainless pumparm) so the pump arm was delayed until I could replace that the following day. Tapped and bent the pump arm. ( because it is so short it had to be bent more to be very precise or it would add friction to the bolt)

All together I think it was somewhere between 4 and 6 hours total over 2 days time. If I did it again, probably 2-3 hours maybe less. I spend alot of time double and tripple checking my work.

**CoolHipJim56** · June 12th, 02:16 AM

Cool Cool, do yout think it was worth the time and effort you put into it?

**jaggy13** · June 12th, 02:45 AM

Absolutly!
I have been patiently waiting to get a turtle. And I also have a facination with mini's.
I think every cocker should be a mini.
Now I just need an MQ-Valve and it will be complete!

I don't know if you have seen the triggers I made for my ion, (also for an impulse and angel) but those took way more time. This was so much easier than a trigger. the difference is that if I screw up on the trigger, I just throw it away and I am out a few hours and a few cents in aluminum. if I screw up on the cocker... different story!

I am not telling anyone to go out to their garage and grab a hacksaw and start cutting. But it was not as diffacult as I thought it could be.

**CoolHipJim56** · June 12th, 12:23 PM

Did you have to purchase a new bango bolt because of its extra length, or did you just shorten that as well?

**jaggy13** · June 12th, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolHipJim56

Did you have to purchase a new bango bolt because of its extra length, or did you just shorten that as well?

not sure what you mean there. I just used the stock banjo bolt (airscrew).
I threaded the passage before I cut it down, so that I would not have to start new threads. (its very diffacult to get it perfectly straight.) after it was threaded I just cut off a little more than an inch of the body.

**Gangsta_Redneck** · June 12th, 09:27 PM

how did it shoot??

**jaggy13** · June 12th, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by z71redneck08

how did it shoot??

ROPES!

I love it!

***donalson*** · August 16th, 02:04 AM

sorry to bring this back from the dead... but do you happen to have any pics of the orry before it was mini'd?... i'm considering halfblocking my e-orry and i'm still not sure about it from a looks standpoint... preformance is no question though

thanks
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