Well, my first gun. My friends absolutely splurged on theirs. SP8, MR3, heck, one even got a 98 Custom, Freak 14", Halo B, and an AK body kit. I just wanted something simplier. I compared it with theirs, keeping in mind that those other guns were a little better, but I learned that my paint was literally lobbed across a distance of about 75 feet before it fell. I understand that this was sort of an older model, but is it really that bad compared to newer things? I just feel that for $200 I should have gotten more. Everything else about it, I have no complaints, just its velocity, and I've cranked it up about 100 FPS more, but its still no match for other markers. I am using C02 and its prefered HPA. Im REALLY hoping that a switch will make it better, but I'm not sure what to expect. PNTball gave it a 9.5, so I thought i was getting something better. It's been over 30 days and I've shot about 500 rounds out of it so far so the warrenty is shot. I just need some re-assurance that it doesnt completely suck, I like it in all but it doesnt seem to compare.
Nah dont worry i have one myself i spent 200 on it too, but u can get it for 150 now. I got mine intending on upgrading it... because it really isnt all that great stock. But for 200 bux u coulda got an slg which my friend has and is very very nice.
But its an autococker and if u tune it right it should be great. Just get the techt shaft kit and a new trigger and itll be much nicer. Im getting an eblade for mine at some point but keeping the stock trigger and frame till i do. U should consider an eblade i heard they make a mounting bracket so u can use it.
Here check this out Trilogy Facts - PbNation
Also make sure u use air no c02, c02 bad. And if u want less kick u can get the zero kick back block from them. Autococker Zero Kick Back Block
you've got a velocity problem. read the manual to find out how to increase yor velocity and all will be better.
your friends choudl also be shooting over 300 feet per second, and this is considered dangerous because the masks used ot play with are not rated above that speed and can malfunction; leading to serious injury
Well thanks. I played another game today and well I feel better about it. 3 kills, 0 deaths. But I think since the places around where I live obviously dont allow auto, a cocker will be just fine. And WHEN I go pro (because you know it will happen eventually, right after I win the Powerball), I may consider getting an Ego or some other high end electro gun. So, with that in mind, how much am I looking at for a new set up. So far, its stock, which isnt saying much. I know I'd want a trigger, but what else will I need?
Last edited by Gibson Guy : August 12th at 11:00 PM.
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hey zues. how about you say something useful or nothing at all?
With autocockers the sky is the limit to what you can do. there's so many different aftermarket parts out there for them it's not even funny. For now thouhg, keep it stock and see what it is that you dont' liek about it, then go from there.
well for mine first upgrades are gonna be the techt shaft thingy and zero kick back block u can find on their site its a really good deal, then i got a new cocking rod and an asa is coming in the mail cuz the stock one sux imo.... the next thing im gonna save up for is an eblade, u should look into that
you guys are complaining about the stupidest thing first off if your working on a cocker go to the source and i am not talking wgp as there customer service sucks go to an actual cocker forum and $200 for a trilogy i spent half of that on mine.
velocity being low could be caused by sever things.
read this article it will explain everything on low velocity as i expect you were playing with the marker to see how it works
a cocker (even the trilogy) is by far better than a 98 custom and is considered a high end marker stock form they are almost better than anything in my opinion but hey i am impartial to mechanical markers.
yes i have owned electros but wasn't impressed second if you can't shoot anything but semi-auto (either the feild wont let you or you can't afford it) whats the point of owning an ion black heart, pmr with a virtue, if you are not even going to be able to afford the outcome on fully auto (25+ bps)
well i love my dm7, i dont use it to shoot 35 bps i like the smooth firing of it the quietness to it, and personally i feel its easier to focus on the game of paintball when ur not focusing on ur gun being uncomfortable or restricting, or if u go out wearing bad gear u know what i mean. I love the feel of my dm and good hold/walk the trigger for days on that thing and never get tired where as on my trilogy even with an eblade im still gonna be wishing it was more comfortable.
i wasn't talking bad @ all about a pmr (i always talk bad about smart farts there just the crap) and no one said 35bps i own a trilogy and a vl maxis r/g both are mechanical triggers if i get in to a pinch i can usually get out of it with less than 5 bps yeah it sucks when you are pinned down by 3 guys going fully auto (and i don't mean there out of air) but thats what team mates are for i just see no point in shooting a whole hopper in less than 6 seconds or a whole case in less than a minute (i can shoot a whole hopper on my cocker in less than 20 seconds on a good day not good for the pneumatics with co2 as i start to shoot snow out the barrel)
if you are worried about slinging paint sell your trilogy pro for $100 and spend the extra money and get the trilogy pro sf you can get a new one for less than $300 less cost than the ebalde it's self
if all else fails and you cant fix your cocker sell it to me for $25 and ill fix it in 10 minutes
i was just saying no one has to be shooting 35 bps thats ridiculous, im saying higher end electro-pneumatic markers are better because they are much more comfortable lighter and just overall nicer to be shooting. I have a dm and shoot only semi when i paintball ive never played on another setting, theres no need to.
i agree there is no need for 35 bps down range and i do agree light weight trigger pull (electro) is more comfortable than a not so manageable pull for most mechanical triggers but i also deny the fact that there is no better marker than a well tuned mechanical cocker as you can fire just as much paint as a short pull electro if you are good enough.
others things would be a tech t adjustable 3 way rod so you can adjust where the gun re-cocks for much better timing TechT Trilogy Shaft Kit
and the last thing i recommend are a barrel kit of some kind either freak or wgp kaner kit both allow you to change the bore size to create a tighter or looser fit for diferent sized paint
Just checking because I know almost nothing about autocockers, my is a mechanical and there is no way to change that right? I saw an e trigger for a trilogy but that wouldnt make sense considering that its mechanical. Id prefer to get this thing to be a main gun rather than a backup. With that being said, what internal upgrades should i get if any are even made?
This is for Sparktite and Gibson Guy and anyone else that has the older Trilogy that is stock. They are totally upgrade able. Mine is almost totally redesigned and it is sweet on the field. Enjoy Here are the pictures of my mid-blocked Trilogy pro and the parts that where used.
WGP Trilogy Pro body
Eclipse E2
CCM ram w/ Eclipse Q.E.V x1
Eclipse O.O.P.S. asa
New Designz Equalizer Bolt "impulse"
Karnivor STO regulator
MQ2
custom length pump arm "shorter than black magic-almost half"
custom delrin mid-block
Slik pull pin
Stiffi switch kit
Click on pictures to get a better veiw!
mech only means that it has a mech frame you can always change the frame on an autococker to any (cocker design) electronic trigger frame e1,e2, worr blade you can always modify four marker to accept a different trigger frame
as far as internal up grades go nothing in particular
i would suggest a tech t adjustable 3way before anything internal as it gives you more of a feel of a real autococker plus messing with internals and not having an adjustable 3 way will give you next to no benefit.
as you would have next to no adjust ability of the marker to work out timing of the marker
Now if it is only semi-auto, whats the point of getting a new bolt? Cant it already fire as fast as you can pull the trigger?
Im sorry im being so picky. im only 15 and i cant really get a job anywhere beacuse A. im not 16 yet and B. no one wants their grass cut.
So i just really want to know if it is worth it investing in this gun or if I should get something else and dump money into that. I can see me putting about $200 max into it without a new body kit. The cosmetic look is ok for now, im just looking to up its performance.
well if ur looking for a nice smooth marker that will be comfortable and fire very nice, i suggest u stop putting money into the autococker and save that for a backup in case something goes wrong with ur new marker... which is gonna happen
marker wise my faves for the 200 buck price range are slg pmr and then ion in that order. But in your case i would suggest the pmr over an slg. Whoa actually nvm i just checked the price of a pmr and i cant find it under $275 what happened they price dropped it to 200 and now its back up again? That doesnt even include the ul frame.
Well thats fine the slg is better anyways other than it not having a UL frame... Proto SLG Paintball Gun - Black at ActionVillage.com : Paintball
here check that out, my friend has one of these and we both love the marker... only problem with it is that ur hopper may require some sanding to fit... or u might need to buy a new feed neck for ur hopper to fit... i know it fits a ricochet apache fine and i think it fits a halo b fine too.
sry for blabbing so much hope this helps, if u have any questions about the slg or pmr feel free to pm me or ask here.
well if ur looking for a nice smooth marker that will be comfortable and fire very nice, i suggest u stop putting money into the autococker and save that for a backup in case something goes wrong with ur new marker... which is gonna happen
marker wise my faves for the 200 buck price range are slg pmr and then ion in that order. But in your case i would suggest the pmr over an slg. Whoa actually nvm i just checked the price of a pmr and i cant find it under $275 what happened they price dropped it to 200 and now its back up again? That doesnt even include the ul frame.
Well thats fine the slg is better anyways other than it not having a UL frame... Proto SLG Paintball Gun - Black at ActionVillage.com : Paintball
here check that out, my friend has one of these and we both love the marker... only problem with it is that ur hopper may require some sanding to fit... or u might need to buy a new feed neck for ur hopper to fit... i know it fits a ricochet apache fine and i think it fits a halo b fine too.
sry for blabbing so much hope this helps, if u have any questions about the slg or pmr feel free to pm me or ask here.
I would just like to point out that the SLG is NOWHERE close to better than a PMR. The SLG is a blowforward (modernized Automag design) whereas the PMr is a true electropneumatic spool valve (just without a lpr).
i would also debate the fact that an electro is better than a manual cocker(but were here to help the guy with his cocker not debate opinions).
The reason for different bolts is simple (2 things) the lighter the bolt on a cocker the less over all kick back when the gun recocks second if there are 20 different bolts on the market people will buy several of them to see which one they like
the reason i bought a new bolt for my cocker is simple i hate oiling o-rings after almost every round.
WGP Autococker Trilogy Pro; Am I Screwed?
