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**PaintBallBob** · June 14th, 11:43 PM

what are some companies other than WGP that make cockers comparable to a verticle feed?

**dhill0413** · June 15th, 12:29 AM

ans makes the gx-3. its more expensive than a vertical feed and the 2k3 wgp vf is $260 or less at some places....get a vert feed you wont regret it

Flatliner105 · June 15th, 11:26 AM

ya but the GX3 comes with a better reg....and better pnues...

**TheAngryGumba11** · June 15th, 11:32 AM

Free Flow and Planet Eclipse make Cockers As Well. Good Ones I might Add.

**¤COLD¤** · June 15th, 11:38 AM

dye reflex,kapp,reflex,

**PaintBallBob** · June 15th, 12:03 PM

whats the difference between a 2k3 and a 2k4

**TheAngryGumba11** · June 15th, 12:14 PM

The 04 has Different Body Milling, The Pneumatics are Chromed Out, and it Comes with a Bottom Line, and a New Style Beavertail...Anyone else care to add?

**PaintBallBob** · June 15th, 12:20 PM

so really its just cosmetic.
Is it okay to buy a used autococker since theeir reslae value sucks or do you mostly end up getting ripped off?

**TheAngryGumba11** · June 15th, 12:35 PM

Oh the Regulator is different, Forgot about that. As far as Buying Used not so sure. I've only bought new stuff.

**sumsimpleracer** · June 19th, 12:01 AM

if your still lookin, try hybrid technologies, the quest and rival are both really good autocockers, infact i own a rival autococker

**Squeak** · June 19th, 02:08 PM

On buying used it really depends on who you buy it from. I had bought a 2k2 a year back and it sucked I had to do alot 2 it, but then I bought my friends 2000 becasue I was sick of dealing with my 2k2 and it works great. so it rellly depends on who you buy it from.

**lightbulb8817** · June 20th, 08:05 PM

ANS pneum are garabage. Their LPR's use crappy metal and dirt, paint, and paintshells craw into holes that aren't covered.

Buy a used cocker. You save tons of money.

**tippmannbeast** · June 20th, 09:10 PM

^^thats not always a good idea, because SOOO much can be wrong with a cocker, especially if you don't get to ty it first.
ANS products aren't great... their ram is terribel- it has a really narrow ram shaft which will require a higher LPR, that will in turn not alow you to pinch paint. My FF Ram has a larger ram shaft, and i have a super low LPR and i pinch alot.
Still- the 03/04 is a better deal because it has a good hinge, and a better ram. the 04's LPR is better than the 03's because it's adjustable.
bottom line, i think the WGP 3.5 is the best deal- 03 body (much prettier and sexifuler) and the 04 pneu's and stuff. good deal- $300 at... a site i cannot say...
PM me for it
yea... the GX-3 frame is terrible.
go for the 3.5

***NYY*** · June 20th, 11:21 PM

look into the psycho ballistics cocker clone, i shot one and it wasnt half bad. Better than a stock 2k4 at least.
and you can save lots of money when buying used, but you just have to find the right deal

**lightbulb8817** · June 20th, 11:57 PM

yeah, i didn't want to sound like buy ANY used cocker.

of course you have to know what you're getting. ask for all the seller's info first (including phone #, verify it), then ask explicitly what's wrong with the cocker and where are the scratches... etc.

**PaintBallBob** · June 21st, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by NYY
look into the psycho ballistics cocker clone, i shot one and it wasnt half bad. Better than a stock 2k4 at least.
and you can save lots of money when buying used, but you just have to find the right deal

little hesitant about the Psycho ballistics after hearing the horror stories of the SB and seeing their add(listing adjusting velocity as one of the specs).

***Barber*** · June 21st, 02:03 AM

Get the 2k3 cocker.

**PaintBallBob** · June 21st, 03:01 AM

i cant find it anywere cheaper than the 2k4...besides looks like the new one is worth it(dont you need a bottom line for the 2k3 which costs most of the price difference?)

also, does the worrblade/eblade come with an 'eye'?
is there a way to get an eye on a cocker?

***Barber*** · June 21st, 03:06 AM

Eblades come with eye. You can find the 2k3 cheaper than a 2k4. 2k3s are better anyway. I'm selling a 2k3 if you are interested.

**PaintBallBob** · June 21st, 06:27 PM

how are they better?
no, sorry, i wont have any money for a month or two.