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**doubleblade91** · July 15th, 06:40 PM

I saw that the autocockers dont have eyes.
Do you autococker owners chop balls alot?
Are the triggers light as angels?
How fast can it shoot without any upgrades?
Thanx for your help.

**Stopie** · July 15th, 06:49 PM

On a mechanical trigger, you can shoot fast enough to need eyes, those are for eblades, and those come with eyes.

Angel = overrated, and mech triggers u can get down to 6mm, where as i can get an eblade to where u blow on it it fires

Max i can get on a mech trigger is prolly 9bps...eblade, you can get the settings to allow it to go 35 w/o eyes on.

**doubleblade91** · July 15th, 06:53 PM

so if without any upgrades how fast would it be able to shoot?

**doubleblade91** · July 15th, 06:59 PM

i just checked the eblade price.
why is it so fricken expensive?
and wuts so good about autocockers?
is there a way i could just get the eye?

**braka** · July 15th, 09:07 PM

you dont need an eye with just a mech trigger as long as you have a decent feeder

a stock 04 vf can hit strings of 8-9 fanning. without an e-blade a lot of the ups dont matter.

fire a cocker and you'll see why people like them

**CoolHipJim56** · July 15th, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleblade91

i just checked the eblade price.
why is it so fricken expensive?
and wuts so good about autocockers?
is there a way i could just get the eye?

1. Its expensive because it comes with a lot of complex components that help your cocker fire faster. ( I still think its over priced but, that’s just me)

2. Cockers are known for their dart like accuracy, upgradeability, and their closed bolt operation.

2. There is no way that i know of to get just the eyes, you will have to buy the entire frame/solenoid.

And BTW, dont double post, Its annoying. Use the edit button.

**sumsimpleracer** · July 15th, 09:59 PM

cockers are expensive because it has sooo much to them compared most other guns.

**Stopie** · July 16th, 08:27 AM

The thing with the eye is that you have to manual connect it to the eblade frame when u buy it...so you'll have nothing to plug it into, nothing to translate the signal, and no source of power.

As to why its so much monies, ill just say what Jake from NPS told one customer: Well, cockers are generally very accurate, but theres some problems withe 'em, but the point of the eblade is to turn it into an electronic super gun.

Cockers are worth it, at our last tourney, i went through a bag of 500...thats its, just one or two balled everyone...but now that im getting an eblade...heeheee...

**pbpro115** · July 17th, 01:07 AM

what is the stock barrel on the 2k3, and does the reg need to be replaced, or should i keep it

**mehdiballer** · July 17th, 01:24 AM

the stock barrel on the 03 is just that, the stock barrel on the 03.

get a cocker. cockers mow the puppets.

**tippmannbeast** · July 17th, 02:27 PM

you can't just get an eye... you have an impulse(or so your sig says) so you should know that an eye is connected to an electronic board that 'tells' the sear when it's ok to fire... like when a ball is in the chamber.
there is no concievable way to get a mech trigger down as far as you can with a board, on markers like angels and e-bladed cockers. it's just common sense.

**MP11** · July 17th, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleblade91

i just checked the eblade price.
why is it so fricken expensive?
and wuts so good about autocockers?
is there a way i could just get the eye?

the eblades come with a e-3way, eye, eye cover, new electronic trigger frame. it converts your, shortstroking cocker to a cocker that shoots solid ropes of paint. its the biggest upgrade for a cocker out there. wait for the e-2 to come out. e-1 prices will drop.
autocockers can handle the woods and speedball. they are great guns for those who like to tinker and can be built from the ground up.
their is no way to get an eye without the eblade. look at my diagram for more info...

**Empirexball** · July 18th, 10:48 PM

i got an 04 cocker and it works great.....ne1 wanna buy it with an empire barell kit and a flame drop??? pm me

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