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**paintballer82** · August 31st, 12:42 AM

Look what their doing to the autococker, no more 'good complicated gun' now they will be 'newbie, insexpensive, begginer gun' Why are they doing this... Will the good ones be back again... Integrated 3 ways..... no more upgraded pneumatics??? but that's the fun bit of having a 'cocker...

**666paintballer** · August 31st, 08:00 AM

Calm down. The "regular" vert feeds and such will still come back. I think Bud is just trying a new line of cockers to appeal to the younger crowd.

**epsilonbass** · August 31st, 09:37 AM

dont worry i still think the "younger croud" will still be persuaded by sypder's 13 bps e-guns. They wont see the point of a mech trigger.

**Cerebeus** · August 31st, 09:43 AM

And they'll short stroke the hell out of it.

Anyone else think that single finger hinge trigger is ridiculous looking? Guess I'll have to get used to seeing it.

**paintballer82** · August 31st, 10:33 AM

so will they still have a 2005 usual vert feed?

***NYY*** · August 31st, 10:43 AM

actually the word "autococker" will attract many a newbie and they will soon realize cockers arent what they thought they are made out to be

**paintballer82** · August 31st, 11:41 AM

will the beginner ones still need to be timed? and stuff like that...

**Cerebeus** · August 31st, 12:05 PM

Of course theyll need to be timed. Which will lead to countless newbie threads like "OMG my new cocker is broken.. I just turned that thing on the front.. WTF is wrong with it??"

**Cujo2031** · August 31st, 04:48 PM

i have been out of the paintball loop for awhile now, but, wat is so much diffrent about the 05 compared to the 04/03? can someone post a picture of the 05 or somethin?

**MP11** · August 31st, 05:14 PM

You need to stop making threads about this. HP_Lovercraft already explained this. This is a whole new line of cockers which are not meant to replace any older line. These are meant to compete with Tippmanns and Spyders. K2 reliezed they were selling 1 cocker for every 100 Tippmanns so they decided to make a line of cockers that would appeal to new players. The '05 cockers will be released in the future. But the questoin is, why would someone by a cocker that was $400 when their was a similar product for $200? They might have poorly made these with the hope that they would upgrade to their $400 product or maybe their $600 product. K2 did not ruin cockers by making them cheaper for begginers. They simply made a new line of markers for the players who had a smaller budget.

-Mike

**Darkpaintball** · August 31st, 05:21 PM

^^hes got it right man. Just because they made a new line didnt ruin cockers. I can imagine that this will bring in a bigger crowd of people to the cocker family. K2 has the right idea cuz people will purchase the cheaper cocker and may like them. This will keep them buyin new cockers-like the 04 vf right on up the line to karnivores.

**paintballer82** · August 31st, 05:22 PM

I'm sorry people, i made this thread before hp posted, i thought that this was going to replace it

**100%Wooddog** · August 31st, 05:24 PM

Glad I bough my 04..

**The nforcer2006** · August 31st, 05:33 PM

Get ready for all the new probs, looks like im going to have to buy something else, Sure these will be for beginners, but a noob cant even figure out how to oil and field strip his spyder. WHICH in turn will not help at all the beginners. UNLESS this cocker is special in the way that you cant Short stroke it, then it would be great. Once they find out they can get one for cheap, they are going to buy one and mess it up. Then sell it, and buy a spyder or something and they're gonna say, boy do these cockers suck.

Just my 2 cents

I wonder what this black little hose is..

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