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**ShotgunWeddingz** · September 3rd, 10:32 PM

Saviour (n.) - One who saves, preserves, or delivers from destruction or danger.

What I have done is compiled all the old posts of this site, and others, looking for the best reviews, the opinions of the people, and my own personal tastes regarding what makes the "perfect" Cocker. I will tell you right now that there is no perfect Cocker. It all comes down to a matter of opinions and again, personal taste.

Over the next few weeks I will be posting my parts list and posting pictures of the assembly of Project: "Saviour" with the hopes that it will result into, with lack of a better term, one God of a Cocker.

Here is what is on the parts list as of now:

- Mini. Fastback Body
- eBlade II
- Posion Arrow Barrel Kit
- Eclipse QEVs
- Crossfire 68/4500 Tank
- Halo B w/ Rip Drive and Victory Board

EDIT: Added 9/6/04

- Nexus Ram
- Palmer Micro. Rock w/ FF Knob
- Nexus Internals
- Docs' Flat Front Block Screw
- Jackal Front Block w/ FF Mini-Vert ASA
- Empire On/Off
- CP Rail

That is the parts list that will come in the next few weeks. I am still compiling information as to what Pneumatics, On/Off, and make of Rail I will be using. The items above are just "core" items I will use.

Thoughts, comments, diseases?

-Weddingz

**CoolHipJim56** · September 3rd, 10:36 PM

Free Flow or nexus ram, and Palmer Micro Rock for the pneumatics. CP or Palmer Stabilizer inline. Free Flow or Nexus internals. I'll name more if I think of them.

***P4IN7 B4LLS*** · September 3rd, 10:37 PM

well it will need a cp vert reg... as for rail and stuff, go with a unimount...

**MP11** · September 3rd, 10:37 PM

I would get a palmers micro rock w. ff knob, 44 magun ram, aka 2 liter reg, maxxy tank, belsales supercharger valve, get a mini fastback, a jackal front block w. ff mini vert asa, docs flat front block screw, etc.

-Mike

**Mastyx** · September 4th, 12:23 AM

uhh...CCM J2 86 degree frame

***P4IN7 B4LLS*** · September 4th, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mastyx

uhh...CCM J2 86 degree frame

he already it would have an eblade 2... why would he put a mech frame on such a nice cocker? thats silly

**Mastyx** · September 4th, 12:41 AM

ohhh, sorry.

its a little late on my end. guess i should go away from the computer now for my own and this thread's good. lol

**imhungry** · September 4th, 05:21 PM

the perfect cocker is the one u trade for a matrix or timmy. seriously, i am the cocker god and i say screw um

that is one of the best setups i have seen though. get FF springs, microrock lpr, empire on/off and cp rail. get a cp inline reg, it owns the sidewinder (i have both regs, sluts)

**Cerebeus** · September 4th, 06:36 PM

I have to agree with hungry. I love my cocker to death, but if I were shopping for a new gun *now* I'd go trix definately.

Although a Fastback bodied cocker with all those other upps would be *just* as good. The fastback is the coolest looking body I've ever seen on a cocker.

**Bubbahotep** · September 4th, 07:51 PM

ya i like cockers too. But there are a lot better things out there

**ShotgunWeddingz** · September 9th, 04:22 PM

Of course I am not backing out, but may I ask peoples opinions onto this projects apparent performance compared to that of say, a Karnivor?

-Weddingz

**Cerebeus** · September 9th, 05:23 PM

You'll own the Karni with that setup performance wise...The Karni is still a great cocker though... It also looks awesome and is extremely light (although the body you picked will be lighter more than likely)

**Mastyx** · September 10th, 10:02 PM

how about you consider a osiris up-grade kit instead of and e-blade.

http://members.cox.net/pgipaintguns/page12.html

if you dont know what it is check the site and videos.

i just remebered it and will be spending my money on the kit with the rocking trigger.

**Cerebeus** · September 10th, 10:27 PM

^^^ The Osiris is cool but it's basically just a Timmy in a cocker body

Eblade 2 keeps the marker a true autococker.

**ShotgunWeddingz** · September 10th, 11:16 PM

Egh. I'm not too impressed myself. Sticking wit' the E2.

-Weddingz

**Tex** · September 12th, 11:45 AM

Turtle cocker it

http://turtlecockers.com/

**MP11** · September 12th, 02:21 PM

When Turtle half-blocks cockers they put it on a rail, which wears down the anno. If you were to get Martin, Palmers, Race, or Doc to do it, their deisgn allows the bolt/back block to float. Your Project: "Saviour" cocker would be comparable to a Karnivor. The Karnivors biggest feature is the ICS, which is basically what Doc's Fastbacks have (they cock internally, they do not use cocking rods). The other parts on your Project: "Saviour" cocker would be just as good, if not better.

-Mike

DarkTamer · September 12th, 07:20 PM

Wait, if are you just trying to compile a list of what would BE the best cocker? Or are you actually going to build this?

**ShotgunWeddingz** · September 13th, 01:13 AM

Oh, I'm building this ****er alright.

-Weddingz

**thedudeh** · September 14th, 10:18 PM

have you thought abot the pbx frame or mq valve?