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**707Tipp** · September 11th, 02:05 AM

say i was to pay the same price for eathier one which one should i get? im new and understand the basics of my tippmann but a cocker 0? no clue and i know i need to get a nitro tank and i want to know if my x-boarded revvy will handle it or should i go with a halo B? money is not to tight but im not rich eathier. and one last question what should i expect to pay for eathier of these? THANX for helping out this noob

**Xx50NuTSxX** · September 11th, 02:35 AM

^^^ is that not the sexiest cocker you've ever seen!?!?! if i had to chose i would go with the hybrid =] .. and umm your revvy should be fine, its a mech gun so im sure your revvys fast enough.. and i think the retail price on it is 600..? but im not sure..

**707Tipp** · September 11th, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Xx50NuTSxX

^^^ is that not the sexiest cocker you've ever seen!?!?! if i had to chose i would go with the hybrid =] .. and umm your revvy should be fine, its a mech gun so im sure your revvys fast enough.. and i think the retail price on it is 600..? but im not sure..

thanks! anybody with any other info please reply

**707Tipp** · September 12th, 09:40 PM

no other comments? i might get it thursday but im still stuck on which to get 0?

**100%Wooddog** · September 12th, 09:52 PM

Well what's your limit?

**707Tipp** · September 13th, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 100%Wooddog

Well what's your limit?

those two, i can get eathier from a friend but for the same price for eathier the Hybrid or the Outkast, brand new still in the box im looking into which one to get im leaning more into the Outkast partly becuase its a WGP but i dont really know know much about cockers thats why im asking which one i should get, or should i get it period.

p8NtB/-\113r · September 14th, 10:50 AM

i would go with the outkast cuz when u get it and get good with it u can get a e-blade on it that looks good

**WgpBlackMagic** · September 14th, 05:01 PM

from what iv heard...hybrids are terrible..don't know why iv never shot one..i would go outkast cuz i had one..its not my back up gun and it works awsome.

***NYY*** · September 14th, 05:18 PM

i'd stick with WGP when buying a cocker

the only exceptions i would make are ccm and dye

**CoolHipJim56** · September 14th, 05:48 PM

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the only exceptions i would make are ccm and dye

Dye cockers suck balls. My friend had one, and all he had was troubles with it. It was leaking straight from the box, brand new. The consistancy was horrible, and you cant change the bolt out on the reflex without replacing the whole backblock, making the gun look gay becuase they had to make that twisty bolt lock system. They are overpriced and a peice of trash IMo, you can get a lot better for the money they charge you.

**imhungry** · September 14th, 05:53 PM

any cocker w/ a front block like the hybrid (there are many) is generally a cheap POS and not really a cocker. wgp, eclipse, FF. those are the only cockers worth buying

p8NtB/-\113r · September 15th, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Xx50NuTSxX

^^^ is that not the sexiest cocker you've ever seen!?!?! if i had to chose i would go with the hybrid =] .. and umm your revvy should be fine, its a mech gun so im sure your revvys fast enough.. and i think the retail price on it is 600..? but im not sure..

looks are very very suckering they can be eye candy and be the worst gun...

**707Tipp** · September 15th, 01:43 AM

Thanks for the info because i actually was thinking about getting the Hybrid i guess ill go for the "real" cocker after hearing this

**tippmannbeast** · September 15th, 10:00 PM

yea i didn't know hybrids were dye... total mindblow...
speaking of things that blow-
dye cockers are terribibble. thats right- terribibble. thats WORSE than terrible!
go with the outkast. The ergo is is very nice (i have1), and the ram/lpr are decent. I would replace the bolt tho- assuming its the bolt i think it is (stock open-face bolt). Besides that, it's a very nice marker. here- cheap but worthy upgrade: a rounded hammer lug. If you know what the hammer lug is, then you will see why this is benificial. It makes your trigger pull smoother and i think, lighter.
The stock marrel on the outkast is nice. I've used them- i like it. Also the chrome parts (blocks, frame, asa) is a very nice touch. Go for the outkast but TRY IT FIRST! cockers can have a kabillion things wrong with them and look perfect.

**CoolHipJim56** · September 15th, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tippmannbeast

speaking of things that blow-
dye cockers are terribibble. thats right- terribibble. thats WORSE than terrible!

Finaly, someone else that knows what they are talking about.

p8NtB/-\113r · September 16th, 10:41 AM

i didnt know hybrids were dye's... well that makes me hate them much more than i used to (even though i always hated them)

**tippmannbeast** · September 16th, 07:27 PM

yea go with wgp... they make cockers as good as they are today for a reason. Dye cockers are kinda like k-mart clothes. They're over priced for their quality, and they're just mass produced to make profit.
Also- as far as i know, you can't replace their internals(unless my source is wrong) so you're stuck with the stock, or buying straight from dye. another good thing about dye.
imo, they shudda stuck with goggles and barrels.

also: thanks jim!

No0bIe_PaIntBal · September 16th, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by imhungry

any cocker w/ a front block like the hybrid (there are many) is generally a cheap POS and not really a cocker. wgp, eclipse, FF. those are the only cockers worth buying

You forgot Ccm

Go with a Superstock, Ccm Series 5, Orracle. Whichever you can afford.

p8NtB/-\113r · September 18th, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by imhungry

any cocker w/ a front block like the hybrid (there are many) is generally a cheap POS and not really a cocker. wgp, eclipse, FF. those are the only cockers worth buying

ANS cockers arent not that bad

**imhungry** · September 18th, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by p8NtB/-\113r

ANS cockers arent not that bad

no, they suck dick. and the hybrid is not a dye cocker. wtf are u guys talking about? dye cockers ARE NOT that bad. quit ramming rumors you hear on the internet and actually try one. they dont have the best pnues, but they sure as hell are not that bad