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**Chris5215** · September 11th, 09:03 PM

Why a noob shouldn't buy an autococker?

**GBRudy16** · September 11th, 09:08 PM

well depends on what series or year of autococker... they are known as machines that take time and patients and a bit of know how. You have to be willing to tinker with the gun to make it just right. And its not a small task.

**Chris5215** · September 11th, 09:22 PM

The one I'm looking at is a WGP 2003.

**bzktmoto** · September 11th, 11:14 PM

Thats a good cocker to start out on, plus can be upgraded the hell out of

**CoolHipJim56** · September 12th, 12:22 AM

As long as you dont plan on playing with anything too much on it when you first get it if/when you dont know anything about it. I recommend reading over the little amount of the information in the manual the gun comes with, then read the stickies on here so you know how to tinker with it correctly, and know what upgrades to get first. But other than that, I would highly recommend the 2003 Autococker to you.

**Master of Paint** · September 12th, 01:01 AM

Just that noobs like to mess with every aspect of thier gun. I dont know, its some unwritten law that a noob must touch everything on the gun before they play with it. Like jim said, read the stickies and the manual, and just take it and test it out and get to know it better.

**Chris5215** · September 12th, 06:39 PM

Do I need to get a nitro tank for it or will an anti siphon co2 tank be ok? What should be my first upgrade? Will I need to time it?

**CoolHipJim56** · September 12th, 06:50 PM

Actually you dont need an HPA tank for a mechanical autococker. An anti siphon Co2 tank will work just fine. But as for your first upgrade, I would recommend an HPA tank, becuase with it, you will get better consistancy, which leads to better acuarcy, and it is a lot cleaner of a gas, and will not freeze up and crack the o rings.

**MP11** · September 12th, 06:54 PM

Do I need to get a nitro tank for it or will an anti siphon co2 tank be ok?

An anti-siphoned Co2 tank will work fine. You have to remember when autocockers first came out HPA was not an option. How ever, I highly suggest a decent HPA tank.

What should be my first upgrade?

The first upgrade I suggest is a decent HPA tank and/or an electric hopper. For more info on upgrades you can look at my post in the sticky labeled Everything you need to know about cockers. I believe it is on page 3.

Will I need to time it?

It should come timed if you are buying new. The timing might not be perfect due to shipping. The only thing that won't be perfect is the lug placement. Over time you will need to re-time it though.

-Mike

**Chris5215** · September 12th, 07:17 PM

2003 Autococker
20oz Refurbished Co2 Tank
Anti Syphon Tube
JT Flex 7 Mask
Colored Loader
$290

good deal?

**dirtrider** · September 12th, 08:36 PM

Yes, its pretty good. I got my cocker for $200 and an anti-siphon 12 oz for $20 but then again I'm not as lucky as most other people. I wouldnt recommend the colored loader if its not electric. If it is electric please tell what kind. Let's break this down.

03 Cocker- Let's say $240
Used 20oz and anti-siphon tube- around $20
Colored loader- (non electric im guessing) around $8
JT Flex 7 mask- around $45
This all equals- (gets calculator out)- $313. Hey not bad man. Of course my prices aren't exact but I'd say go for it dude. Except the hopper. Get an egg or revvy or something man.

**Chris5215** · September 12th, 08:45 PM

The gun is $230
20oz tank is $20 with the anti siphon
mask is $35
The colored loader is $5, this will probally be the first thing I upgrade.

And as long as I don't mess with things it will be ok?

First marker...

Thanks for the help everyone.

**dirtrider** · September 12th, 08:49 PM

sounds good dude
btw im not bad at estimating

**100%Wooddog** · September 12th, 09:52 PM

Buy the 05....

**Chris5215** · September 12th, 10:02 PM

But the 05 will be closer to $400 while the 03 is closer to $200.

**ezmonet** · September 13th, 01:22 PM

Make sure that the anti-siphon matches your gun. You need to make sure that the tube they put into the tank points up when you have it screwed in. When I used to make anti-siphon tanks I had to make them specific to each gun I could not have them premade.

Ez

**Chris5215** · September 13th, 02:49 PM

oh...I was just going to put it in myself...

**MP11** · September 13th, 03:21 PM

If you put an anti siphon tube on yourself you run the risk of installing it uncorrectly. If it is uninstalled correctly it will be dangerous. Is better to risk someones life or pay the extra $20 to anti-siphon your tank done by a air smith?

-Mike

**Chris5215** · September 13th, 03:47 PM

Does that $20 include the anti siphon tube? If I order one with the anti-siphon installed will I have to get it adjusted?

**Destructo6** · September 13th, 04:43 PM

Installing the antisiphon tube isn't terribly difficult. If you are fairly mechanically inclined and pay attention, you shouldn't have much trouble.

An Autococker has quite a few adjustments, to be sure, but if you take the time to understand the purpose and sequence of those adjustments, you should be fine. Again, being mechanically inclined helps.

The Internet is a great source. Googling "autococker timing" and such should give you plenty of information.