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**YUNG WIZZLE 05** · October 24th, 06:36 PM

im thinking about getting a cocker i already have a E99 Avant but i want something better. i think i want the 04 vert cocker but im not sure. is there anythink bad about cockers that i should know about before i save up ma money and get one ? and is it hard to get them adjusted right and shooting good ?
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**hurdlebeast** · October 24th, 06:42 PM

timing isn't too hard, go to www.cockertech.com to find out cocker info. adjusting right and shooting good are another thing; self adjusting for someone new isn't easy, but you eventually get the hang of it. and cockers are like stacked tubes, but not exactly; sorta like a cross between a stacked tube and a pump.

in a nutshell, cockers are different, not neccesarily harder

also, many ppl say the only difference between the 03 & 04 cockers are the price and looks, so you should probably go for the 03.

**dirtrider** · October 24th, 06:42 PM

If you are a noob, then stay away from cockers. But seriously, cockers aren't all that bad to maintan. I have an 03 cocker and like it a lot. I time it every once in a while and then gun works like a champ. If your gun works, don't mess with it. Check out cockertech.com for additional info on timing and whatnot. They have a video on that site as well. read throguh the stickies, and the site I mentioed earlier. Then YOU decide for yourself if you should own a cocker or not.

EDIT: ^^We posted at like the exact same time.

**YUNG WIZZLE 05** · October 24th, 06:53 PM

im not a noob ive been playin for about 2 years now.

**dirtrider** · October 24th, 07:03 PM

ok, what do ya think then? have you checked out the site i mentioned? LOL and I dont really care if your a noob or not

**cb_neosythe** · October 24th, 07:35 PM

hey i'm in the same boat, 2 years under my belt and ready for something a step up and i have looked around and read alot, thing is cockers aren't really as bad as you think, i know a guy who has a 2003, runs it stock with nitro and revy, and he has never had a problem hsi first gun and everything it's just about patience, be patient and learn the in and outs of your gun and learn to take care of it, if you are willing to learn then it will be fine, but if you aren't then this gun isn't for you, there is a bit of info. to know but read through this forum, also if you ever run into something you know how to do, then just ask don't try to attempt and screw your gun up then ask, always ask before and you'll be fine.

**cb_neosythe** · October 24th, 07:36 PM

by the way for 200-250 you can get a 03 cocker way better deal then 2004 oh and they are new just gotta search the web, good luck, and i would run nitro and a good hopper.

**lbreevesii** · October 24th, 07:38 PM

^^ someone has some sense...unless you're weird and just absolutley can't handle having an 03, get an 03. they are the same perfomance wise, lil less milling, and cheaper price. get 03

**cb_neosythe** · October 24th, 07:45 PM

personally i like the 03s milling and look, just not the Barrel it's FUGLY

**YUNG WIZZLE 05** · October 24th, 09:15 PM

aight thanks for the information

**YUNG WIZZLE 05** · October 25th, 01:16 AM

whats the hardes thing to do on a cocker? like cleaning it. and wats the hardest to put back together ?

**cb_neosythe** · October 25th, 09:04 AM

it's the timing, and working with pneumatics and junk, look through the stickies it will go through the details of each part and how you time, basically to keep maintenance you will just have to pull the bolt pin and bolt out, and clean through then put er back in and you're done. Oh yea clean the bolt itself, and oil the o-rings, also take off your regulator, and then oil the ASA, put your reg back on, then air up and cycle a couple times, that's at the end of the day, and maybe some cleaning of the outer body, but the main thing is if your pneumatics and everything are workign then leave it alone.

**YUNG WIZZLE 05** · October 25th, 07:39 PM

is there any good cockers that dont cost over $300 if so where can i get them ?

**dirtrider** · October 25th, 07:51 PM

if you search you will be able to find new 03 cockers for under $300. I am not allowed to post a site. check out froogle

**YUNG WIZZLE 05** · October 25th, 08:57 PM

are the system x cockers any good ?

**predator14** · October 25th, 09:00 PM

well i must admit its a little harder to assemble/disassemble a cocker than to say a spyder. but cockers are the best...

**YUNG WIZZLE 05** · October 25th, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by predator14

well i must admit its a little harder to assemble/disassemble a cocker than to say a spyder. but cockers are the best...

I know that but i wasnted to know if System X cockers are any good. And if not what is a good cocker to start with ?

**JG.** · October 25th, 09:46 PM

WGP vert 03' just like everyones said. I dont know about sys. x autocockers but all around i dont like the company, bad quality imho.

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