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Flatliner105 · October 31st, 07:37 PM

ok guys im gettin a race frame and was wondering...is it in any way possibly that i can install the eyes myself?

i understand its drilling holes into the body itself and involves sotering...but can someone go into more detail if it is possible to do it myself?

Flatliner105 · November 1st, 07:07 AM

can n e one help me out?

**lifeforce4** · November 1st, 10:05 AM

Are you getting it from just some person or buying it from racegun?

Kyle

**lbreevesii** · November 1st, 12:29 PM

of course it can be done yourslef, its just a matter of, do i want to risk screwing up my guns body myslef, having never done or attempted this, or do i want to send it in and pay the price to have it done professionally.

**jaggy13** · November 1st, 01:28 PM

I was just reading through my Eblade manual, and it has a nice pull out template for drilling the holes. If your raceframe manual has that, and you feel comfortable drilling the holes I would say go for it. Doesn't look extremely technical. Just make sure that the gun body is level when you drill the holes. If you have the proper tools it should be easy. If not it could be much more difficult. good luck.

Flatliner105 · November 1st, 02:48 PM

I am torn between the race frame from RaceGun...and a race frame by ANS at another site....racegun is $450...and ANS Race is $400...

Im trying to see if there is even a difference between the 2 frames other then looks...both come with eyes and both are able to hook up to a computer.

**lbreevesii** · November 1st, 03:17 PM

that is a tough choise, i like your cocker the way it is personally. i love the red and black. would go for a 15* asa tho.

**DayoftheGreek** · November 1st, 03:31 PM

I want to get a 15º ASA just caus it looks awesome, but Ive heard it doesnt feel to good... can anyone vouch for that?

Flatliner105 · November 1st, 03:36 PM

i havnt seen any high permance gun with a 15* asa....if you did that the gun would be set to high and you wouuldnt be able to play tight.

**DayoftheGreek** · November 1st, 03:39 PM

Do you count Orracles as high performance? Orracles have the 15º asa and i think it looks hot... but i dont see how it would make the gun sit too high, its just changein the angle of the reg.

Flatliner105 · November 1st, 05:41 PM

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Do you count Orracles as high performance? Orracles have the 15º asa and i think it looks hot... but i dont see how it would make the gun sit too high, its just changein the angle of the reg.

dude ur a noob.

ASA is the thing u screw the tank into...not the freakin regulator...my god.

**Boomer_Sniper** · November 1st, 07:07 PM

all i have to say is that if you do drill the holes yourself,you got more balls than i do

Flatliner105 · November 1st, 07:23 PM

im not so worried about the drills holes...as gettin the thing installed corectly....as in getting it working properly

**EverybodiesGuy** · November 1st, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Flatliner105

dude ur a noob.

ASA is the thing u screw the tank into...not the freakin regulator...my god.

i wouldn't call him a nub for giving the right info,what do you think angles the reg? hmph...the asa? i still don't see how it would make it sit too high, it is just affecting the angle

and i still don't see when he referred to the regulator as the asa

Flatliner105 · November 1st, 09:41 PM

the ASA adaptor is where u screw your tank into...not where the reg goes in...yes u can get all technicle and say "the place u screw in the reg IS a ASA screw in cuz ur tank will fit there" but its NOT meant for you to screw your tank into it....and if u wanna screw your tank into where the reg screws into lol be my guest and do it.

when firing people rest the tank on some part of thier body...usually on or around the shoulder....if u put a 15* ASA on there...the tank will angle down. If you put the tank then on your shoulder...the tank will be angling UP puting the gun higher...which is what u dont want...u wanna keep the gun low and tucked away as possible.

**jaggy13** · November 1st, 09:44 PM

I gave this some more thougth. I think as long as the gun is level and the holes are plumb the eyes should be easy to install. ( drill press and some clamps would do the trick. The part that would give me concern would be the inside of the body. As you drill the holes it will be very hard not to leave a bur on hte inside of the body. It would also be very diffacult to file that bur down. If there was a bur on the inside of the breach it could tear balls open they went past it. The thought I had to clean those up would be to take a wire brush wheel (like for a dremmel) and cut the tooling end down to fit verticly in your breach. then you could feed it in the breach and out the hole for the eye leaving the wire wheel inside. A few quick spins should smooth it out.

Also some people call "angled verticle adapters" 15* ASA's. I think that is what lbreevesii and dayofthegreek are refering too.

Flatliner105 · November 1st, 09:49 PM

ya the hard part is finding a drilling press lol...

and u get rid of the bur with a dremel tool...just round the edges a lil.

**jaggy13** · November 1st, 09:57 PM

I don't think I would try that free hand. the drill would tend to wobble on you and you may not get as precice a hole as desired. It may be worth a call to a couple of machine shops to see if they could do it also. Without the proper tools it would be much more diffacult. I do like the race frames alot. If I was bying a frame thats the one I would choose. although the e2 should have breakbeam also.

**DayoftheGreek** · November 1st, 10:54 PM

Nyeh, thats what we're refering to. Just to clarify w/ pics.

**jaggy13** · November 1st, 11:01 PM

thats what I thought too greek. I actually want to put one on my STO as well.