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**Snip3r** · April 14th, 11:15 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6161

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**Ninja7** · April 14th, 11:28 PM

cool car, but its not a "supercar"

**Spudchucker** · April 14th, 11:39 PM

sweet sleeper

**Ninja7** · April 14th, 11:46 PM

how is a camaro a sleeper?

**Spudchucker** · April 14th, 11:55 PM

i hold my own against camaros, but that thing would kick my ass. thats how

**Master of Paint** · April 15th, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spudchucker

sweet sleeper

You hold your own against Camaros with a Dodge Avenger?

...Cute Spud, very cute.

**allstarunited** · April 15th, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Master of Paint

You hold your own against Camaros with a Dodge Avenger?

The 4th generation V6 camaro's are some of the most disappointing, overweight, underpowered cars I've ever had the misfortune of riding in. His car may be short by 60 horsepower, but it's also 400lbs lighter. If the Camaro was a 5-speed and the driver wasn't spot-on, I can see how Spud might "hang with it".

The Camaro will be faster, but will most definitely not walk away from him with ease.

Of course, if he's talking about a Z28 or SS, I second the BS call.

***formula4speed*** · April 15th, 09:40 AM

I'd like it more if it were de-badged. As for the 4th gen V6 cars the 3.4 was a dog, the 3.8 has good potential and goes mid 15s out of the box which isn't horrible.

**allstarunited** · April 15th, 09:42 AM

Yeah, if I were a Camaro enthusiast/owner, I'd be embarrassed they even carry the same name.

***formula4speed*** · April 15th, 09:48 AM

I am an f-body enthusiast and believe me the 4th gen V6 cars aren't the worst of the bunch. There are quite of few of them in the 12s. The early third gen cars (82-92) came standard with a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder "iron duke" engine.

**allstarunited** · April 15th, 10:14 AM

Ho - ly crap. That's a down-right shame.

"Yeah man, this here's my Camaro. It runs 15's... to 60..."

**david_4x4** · April 15th, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by allstarunited

The 4th generation V6 camaro's are some of the most disappointing, overweight, underpowered cars I've ever had the misfortune of riding in. His car may be short by 60 horsepower, but it's also 400lbs lighter. If the Camaro was a 5-speed and the driver wasn't spot-on, I can see how Spud might "hang with it".

The Camaro will be faster, but will most definitely not walk away from him with ease.

Of course, if he's talking about a Z28 or SS, I second the BS call.

Yup, V-6 Camaros and Mustangs are a shame to the name. Even though the Mustang still doesn't have much to live up to (GT wise) the V-6 still makes a bad impression.

**Master of Paint** · April 15th, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by allstarunited

The 4th generation V6 camaro's are some of the most disappointing, overweight, underpowered cars I've ever had the misfortune of riding in. His car may be short by 60 horsepower, but it's also 400lbs lighter. If the Camaro was a 5-speed and the driver wasn't spot-on, I can see how Spud might "hang with it".

The Camaro will be faster, but will most definitely not walk away from him with ease.

Of course, if he's talking about a Z28 or SS, I second the BS call.

Yeah, okay a camaro with the 3.4L V6, he might hold out on for a little bit, but were talking a 20HP 70TQ difference, although the avenger is about 400lbs lighter. Still, the Camaro would come out on top IMO. But yeah, 3.8L V6, and and V8 would roll up the Avenger and smoke it.

**allstarunited** · April 15th, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Master of Paint

and a V8 would roll up the Avenger and smoke it.

BS!

A V8 wouldn't waste the gas.

**Snip3r** · April 15th, 03:50 PM

The 3.8 is a strong engine 3800 or whatever it is. Its actually a strong motor to be a 6, They're in the impala, impala SS, gtp...a friend of mine has a gtp w/ a kenne bell I think. Damn fast for a 6cyl.

Xball · April 16th, 02:28 AM

Eh no thanks...

**Spudchucker** · April 16th, 06:29 AM

some newer camaros= weak

my car+ header, intake, exhaust and plugs= not as weak

***formula4speed*** · April 16th, 11:08 AM

When you say weak can I assume we aren't talking about the LS1 cars that can go high 12s stock?

**Master of Paint** · April 16th, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudchucker

some newer camaros= weak

my car+ header, intake, exhaust and plugs= not as weak

Header = 5-10 HP gain
Intake = 5-10 HP gain
Exhaust = 5-10 HP gain
Plugs = 2-5 HP gain

These numbers are approximate, so I'm gonna say you'll get maybe 20-25Hp out of what youve got there. It's a nice little boost, but nothing drastic. I still think a stock 3.4 could take you though.

**ViP_ViPeR** · April 16th, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja7

how is a camaro a sleeper?

eh...any car can be a sleeper...as long as its not something like a ferrari...the point of a sleeper is to look totaly stock but have the engine really tricked out