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***Rick78*** · August 19th, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HuNtS

2006 GTO? 31k (3000 less than you) 0-60 in 4.6, and 1/4 in 13 seconds... N/A, room for 5, and a large trunk

ls2 woot woot

yea you cant argue one is better then the other, especially when we get an ignorant ricer like you who doesnt listen, just go to the import vs. domestic thread and read the 2nd to last post, that should shut you up

***Skurge*** · August 19th, 12:45 PM

the GTO cant do half the things STI's or EVO's can do lol

the sti/evo platform haas 10X the handling a gto will ever have

thats funny

and just because you built two engines in a program, doesn't mean your god lol

**crustybug** · August 19th, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skurge

the GTO cant do half the things STI's or EVO's can do lol

the sti/evo platform haas 10X the handling a gto will ever have

thats funny

and just because you built two engines in a program, doesn't mean your god lol

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and what makes you god?

pfft, id rather have the GTO than an sti or evo...

**CoWcH** · August 19th, 03:47 PM

I am also surprised that nobody has mentioned that Subaru is partially owned by GM.

***Skurge*** · August 19th, 05:21 PM

yes they are, pretty much every car company owns part of another

even toyota owns parts or domestic companies

but the subaru's(well sti's anyway, have no idea about others) are all made in japan

and no where in there did i say i was god if you READ it

**HuNtS** · August 19th, 06:13 PM

you werent tlaking about handling though ace... you said find me an american car for 34k that can put up times like an sti.. i found the car, it's 3k less, and doesnt rely on a turbo

also, they have more than 2 engines in the ls program

***Skurge*** · August 19th, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HuNtS

you werent tlaking about handling though ace... you said find me an american car for 34k that can put up times like an sti.. i found the car, it's 3k less, and doesnt rely on a turbo

also, they have more than 2 engines in the ls program

did you read the whole post, your car leaves out half of the things i was talking about

4 doors, and a large trunk?
oh wait, you can drive it in the winter too!

not even talking about the capability offroad, as really no domestic can compare with that

**HuNtS** · August 19th, 07:44 PM

who cares if a GTO has 2 doors? 4 doors is for soccer moms, also, the GTO is VERY capable of holding 5 people... also, they DO have a large trunk, AND you can drive it in the winter unless you're completely unskilled... it leaves out 1 thing.. and that's 4 doors.... otherwise it does 0-60 .1 seconds better, costs 3k less, and has tons more potential...

i'm sorry, but everyone and their mom has an sti... they're not unique, they're not so hot anymore.. i live in a tiny ass city of 30,000 people, and if i go out on a drive across town i'll pass at least 2-3 different STI's and that's just one trip...

***Rick78*** · August 19th, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skurge

and just because you built two engines in a program, doesn't mean your god lol

you referring to me? are you kidding? my post in the import vs. domestic thread proves the idea of hooking up 4 cylinders is silly when you could be hooking up 8. Clearly you read that, understood that, cried alittle bit cause you realized you were told, so your comback was "just cause you built engines in a program doesnt mean your god"

ok now since we told you off and proved american v8's make more power for the amount of work and money put into them, you went with the ole ricer excuse of "but they handle great!"

ok, lets begin, shall we?

first, not all imports handle great, im gonna say 85% of the imports on the roads today handle like ****, (civic, accord, sentra, altima, camry, etc etc) however, there are some imports (..... ones built to handle well [evo, wrx, ect ect]) that do handle well. Well you know what? there are domestics that handle well too..... guess why?..... they were built to handle well! (corvette, ford gt, etc etc) But if you are the typical ricer, and are too thick to read that and comprehend it, how often do you go to a road course and race your car against other recycled japaneese soda cans? im guessing not too often, i love how import guys always say there stuff handles better.... and 90% of them have never even seen an actual professional road course

**mLuH** · August 19th, 08:18 PM

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Wow......you sir, are very uneducated when it comes to the evo/sti platforms. EVO has been around for awhile in japan, hence the term EVO 9(Current), so maybe they have been around, I dunno, nine generations, perhaps? Or is that just a cute little number they put beside it to hope it sells better? The 4G63T, which has been in the evo for some years, was in the DSM when it rolled into dealerships in 1989! I've had 3 DSMs, and did them all myself. I love the potential of the 4g63 platform. And I never had a problem with them. Granted they were all purchased for around 500, but I built the motor and trans, could launch at 5k all day and not break anything. Stress on a 4G63? Try 450hp on stock internals without breaking a sweat. I'm not sure about the STI, but I'm sure skurge would know. When I was running the 14b(STOCK TURBO), I could embarass more than half of the guys on here, period. When I ran the .63 Trim T04B, good luck even keeping up, even from a roll, and you would have to do that so I wouldn't put around 7 lengths on you easily if we went from a dig. Yea, only 450hp may not be impressive on a four banger, but you're forgetting toyota's trump card-2JZ-GTE. How about over 1000whp easilly on stock internals? When its built, you get up into the 1500whp range. Thats no rods, pistons, or crank. And there are plenty of supras out there putting out that number on stock internals. And guess what? OMG, a *** car thats putting out real power and still reliable. Sorry, but when someone sees a camaro, stang, trans am, or any other V8 roll up to the local track, they expect it to be fast, and the expect it to smoke the little dsm next to it. I laugh'd my a** off when that little talon ripped this T/A a new one out of the whole and make him look silly. T/A=13.2; Talon=11.17. The thing was nobody expected the import to beat the almighty LS1, but he was the talk of the track after he did. Yea, I know, there are countless domestics out there that do 10s and under, but with more displacement, that's to be expected, but something, say an RB26 powered S13 that does that too is cool. Anyways, back to topic, I've owned a Honda, and a Toyota. They both had over 200k before I got rid of them. And they both ran like champs. And yes, I did beat on them. The toyota was my off-road toy. Had to give 'er hell just to get though deep holes, but she didn't break a sweat trying to. The prelude got to a point where it wouldn't die. I know the kid that has it right now, and he runs the piss outta it. Still runs like a top after him driving it, too. Lets go out and buy a 2006 Toyota Camary and a 2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo, keep all records of service and maitenence, and meet back up in 10 years to see whose does better. I'm throwing my money on the Toyota, but who knows until after those 10 years.

Anyways, yea, for crazy power, a V8 is absolutely the way to go. Can't beat the endless gobs of torque and power that it can produce, especially when mated to a RWD platform with the right trans that will allow it to hook up very well. If you want to go the underdog route, then tune an import and at least be able to beat a V8, not just loose by a few lengths. Granted, I drove my DSM everyday without problems and could still rip a lot of cars on the street, but I can't run with those cars that are doing 10s at the track. Granted, if I did an LS1 swap(its been done before in a DSM), that would be a different story. Now, all my attention is focused on my 1954 Ford F100 pickup that will be strickly for cruising and a track truck. Its time to get her on the road, and little projects are just slowing me down too much. Anyways, its all user preferance. Yea, some people have better experiences with domestics than others have had, while some people swear by their imports.

BTW, no matter what you drive, there's always gonna be someone out there that will hand you your a**, whether its a domestic or an import.

/rant

I like your attitude. I approve.

**HuNtS** · August 19th, 09:05 PM

like i've said in other threads... i can outhandle an rsx-s in twisties with my jeep... proving that many imports have the handling capability of a rock on ice.... i'll take a video of me going through turns around here at 55-60 constant, whereas the rsx will only do it at 50-55 tops... with tires screaming whereas mine are making a nice gripping noise... no squeal

**No1TubaPlayer** · August 19th, 10:54 PM

the immaturity level of some of the posts is rediculous. aaand close.

***Skurge*** · August 20th, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HuNtS

like i've said in other threads... i can outhandle an rsx-s in twisties with my jeep... proving that many imports have the handling capability of a rock on ice.... i'll take a video of me going through turns around here at 55-60 constant, whereas the rsx will only do it at 50-55 tops... with tires screaming whereas mine are making a nice gripping noise... no squeal

lol oh man, that post was hilarious.......ya you have no clue about imports at all man

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