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***Dooms*** · October 22nd, 11:13 PM

A friend of mine works for a Dodge dealer and could get me a good deal on one of these. Since the Trailblazer SS is proving to be a tough one to find, after seeing one of these I'm thinking it might be the way to go. Four doors, five seats, better highway mileage than both the SS and my V6 Tribute, AWD, comfortable size, basically everything I need. The only thing it doesn't have is the ground clearance and towing capacity of an SUV, but I guess I could always steal the Suburban when I need a truck.

So, I wanted to get your guys opinions. What do you think of the Charger? I'm a bit leary of dodge's transmissions and wiring, but from what I've heard the Charger has been pretty good. I guess they are pretty safe as well since cops are starting to use them as police cars. Any thoughts? Yay or nay?

I'm not really a Dodge guy, but there is very little selection out there for what I'm looking for, and it's definately time for a new vehicle.

***Dooms*** · October 22nd, 11:14 PM

A picture for those who don't know what a Charger is:

**HuNtS** · October 22nd, 11:15 PM

i'm not much of a fan of the new chargers, but definitely like the looks and the feel of the r/t's... i still <3 my trailblazers tho

**DaBluedevil** · October 22nd, 11:23 PM

I'd still hold out for an SUV. A car, awd or 4wd, will never do as good in the snow as a jeep or SUV or truck. Granted, unless you are rallying across open fields, then a scooby will be nice, but you know what I'm talking about.

**toXic** · October 22nd, 11:40 PM

Their are 2 chargers around here that are used for police cars. I definitely love them. Had a chance to drive one as well as some people on my firedepartment. One of the guys got it up to 135 and almost crapped his pants.(it was fine tuned before the cops got it). He wouldnt go any faster because he was scared.

I like them, I personally would take it over a SUV, but thats just because im a car guy. And have a f150.

**Charger** · October 22nd, 11:41 PM

ummm i dont like the looks of the new chargers at all but the 08 challenger should be nice lol

**mLuH** · October 23rd, 04:28 AM

when i first saw this thread i was gonna say that there are like 2 cop cars out here that are chargers, pretty cool. I doubt many people would try to run away from a charger haha....

As far as your dilemma, yeah I would wait until you find something you really like, not something you "will settle with".

***Rick78*** · October 23rd, 05:09 AM

dont kid yourself, you know you'll be happier with an SUV

trailblazer SS FTW! just stick it out til you find the trailblazer thats right for you, IMO

**mavsfan31** · October 23rd, 09:04 AM

Go with the Trailblazer.

***Dooms*** · October 23rd, 10:09 AM

lol, No love for the Charger?

The one thing that's really making me like the Charger is the gas mileage and the fact that I would be able to afford a brand new one instead of a trade-in.

I don't know, a buddy of mine has a Charger Daytona, so I'll take that for a ride either this weekend or the weekend after and see if I like it or not.

If anyone else knows of any vehicles under $35,000 that have AWD, can do a 14 sec or better quarter mile, get atleast 18mpg highway, and are a comfortable five seater (not a shoe box like a WRX or Evo

) let me know, I'm open to suggestions.

***Rick78*** · October 23rd, 10:36 AM

specs on that charger in case some dont know

hp: 340
tq: 390
weight : 3820lbs
mpg: 17 city 25 highway,

which means more like 14 city and 18 highway

***Rick78*** · October 23rd, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomsday

If anyone else knows of any vehicles under $35,000 that have AWD, can do a 14 sec or better quarter mile, get atleast 18mpg highway, and are a comfortable five seater (not a shoe box like a WRX or Evo

) let me know, I'm open to suggestions.

that is one tough order

it took me like 20 minutes to come up with this:

http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/N...600/Act/Specs/

and its only 255hp

another one
http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/N...576/Act/Specs/
255hp and just rwd

wow the car u want sure is tough to find, i guess thats why its been like 7 months and u still dont have a new car

**toXic** · October 23rd, 11:15 AM

GTO?

I would say a ford five hundred, but its an old mans car. But it has everything you wanted except a good quarter mile time.

edit- First I was going to say a WRX, but then I read what you said again.

***Dooms*** · October 23rd, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAT McCORMICK

that is one tough order

it took me like 20 minutes to come up with this:

http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/N...600/Act/Specs/

and its only 255hp

another one
http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/N...576/Act/Specs/
255hp and just rwd

wow the car u want sure is tough to find, i guess thats why its been like 7 months and u still dont have a new car

See what I mean? It just doesn't #$%$ing exist. Audi makes an AWD 340+hp car, but it's over $40,000 new, Volvo makes that S60R that’s 300hp and only around $38,000 new.....but honestly, what 20 year old wants to drive a Volvo

. There is just very little out there in the way of performance AWD vehicles under $40,000 unless your looking at a WRX or Evo, but they are just too small for me, I already have a small performance car, I need a comfortable driver when I do my 260 mile trek every other weekend.

As to the mileage of the Charger, from what I've been reading most guys are getting 19-21 highway doing 80, compared to 16-18 from the SS, and 19-21 from my Tribute. Apparently that MDS thing where it shuts down half the cylinders works pretty good at increasing highway mileage, though in city traffic it doesn't seem to help much.

**DaBluedevil** · October 23rd, 12:50 PM

What about Saab? Do they offer anything? I know some of htem all balls-fast.

***Dooms*** · October 23rd, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBluedevil

What about Saab? Do they offer anything? I know some of htem all balls-fast.

Nah, all they offer in AWD is that little shoebox 9-2 and the 9-7 SUV which is too expensive and on the slow side.

Edit: I did a poll on PBN, let's see how long that takes before it turns into an all out war.

***Rick78*** · October 23rd, 01:51 PM

heres another, i always had a small thing for the sound of the exhaust on this one
http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/N...768/Act/Specs/

heres the ***** part, this car, is the car you want, its perfect for you, alot of power with 520hp, its an suv, awd, and its european and i know how u test out your new homemade fleshlight to european cars, lol j/k man. But seriously, this is your car, just too much money
http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/N...785/Act/Specs/