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Old July 22nd, 04:15 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old July 22nd, 06:42 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Yes, I also have the same point of view as you other guys. I love Muscle Cars, AND I love Imports, but not always---->, what I hate about them is when a person goes out and buys (just and example) a Honda Civic, from there they buy a nice set of rims, an exhaust tip, those things are okay IMO, but after that they get things like a huge rear wing that does absolutely NOTHING when you only have roughly 130hp!, then they buy a body kit (nothing wrong with one, just DO NOT GO OVERBOARD!) and alot of them actually do go overboard and their Civic looks like a space shuttle that's about to go into orbit! Then they get neons and flashy lights, super flashy graphics sometimes! While doing all that they have absolutely NOTHING for performance besides the exhaust tip (which doesnt do very much at all! not the ones they buy anywayz) From there they go drive like retards around the city thinking they have the coolest space shut...-Oops I mean "car"- in the city. But they don't! (AND I DON'T WANT ANY STUPID COMMENTS SAYING THAT I'M JEALOUS, BECAUSE I AM MOST DEFINATELY NOT!!) If you are going to buy an Import (ex. Civic) put something in it that actually will make a good car! (ex. B18c engine, B16a engine, forced induction, CAI, FULL exhaust, pistons, rods, cam gears, cam shafts, flywheel, clutch, short-shifter, etc... I am getting kicked off the computer so that's all i have ta say for now
this istrue about the wing, with only 130 or w/e low amount of hp. but lets say ur runnin a 220 horse honda civic with a nice lip kit and suspension work, and racing on the track, that rear wing is going to help keep your rear end from sliding out coming out of a corner, also known as understear. if u look at the mugen track cars they have a spoiler on the rear end. they have better quality **** than APC though, if ur car has any APC **** on it, its automatically a ricer, doesnt matter what else u have, imo lol
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Old July 22nd, 08:20 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Old July 22nd, 08:24 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Old July 22nd, 10:34 PM   #65 (permalink)
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this istrue about the wing, with only 130 or w/e low amount of hp. but lets say ur runnin a 220 horse honda civic with a nice lip kit and suspension work, and racing on the track, that rear wing is going to help keep your rear end from sliding out coming out of a corner, also known as understear. if u look at the mugen track cars they have a spoiler on the rear end. they have better quality **** than APC though, if ur car has any APC **** on it, its automatically a ricer, doesnt matter what else u have, imo lol

LOL i couldnt agree more with you haha... yes i was only talking about a civic with 130hp, because if it DID have 220hp then the wing WOULD help.... lol
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Old July 22nd, 10:46 PM   #66 (permalink)
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My car: 1985 Mazda RX-7 Numerous mods, including a streetported 13B 4 port engine, header, exhaust, side drift carb, GSL rear end (disk brakes, LSD),Tokico Blue struts, 1" lowering springs, etc., etc.

is the 13B the turbo motor? turbo rx7s haul ass, specially the 3rd gens, i seen a bad ass red one the other day, goin down I-95, racin a riced out eclipse, it was funny cause the eclipse came flyin by, and i was tryin to catch up in my truck but it wont go faster than 75 lol,cause the tires and gears n ****. rx7 came by goin 5 times as fast, rofl then passed the eclipse, i mean pssed going at least 40 mph faster, i only got to see from a distance
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that rear wing is going to help keep your rear end from sliding out coming out of a corner, also known as understear.
Actually it is oversteering when the rear end slides. It's also called being loose. When the car is tight, or understears, you will go through a turn and the car will want to go in a straight line instead of turning. That is also called having a push.

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Old July 23rd, 12:23 AM   #68 (permalink)
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is the 13B the turbo motor? turbo rx7s haul ass, specially the 3rd gens, i seen a bad ass red one the other day, goin down I-95, racin a riced out eclipse, it was funny cause the eclipse came flyin by, and i was tryin to catch up in my truck but it wont go faster than 75 lol,cause the tires and gears n ****. rx7 came by goin 5 times as fast, rofl then passed the eclipse, i mean pssed going at least 40 mph faster, i only got to see from a distance
I do not have a turbo motor. Turbo rotaries were availible on the second generation RX-7s (the Turbo II model, single-turbo 13B), and they were availible on the Third generation RX-7s (all of them were twin turbocharged 13Bs).

I have been contemplating what set-up I want to get in the future. A very common swap is the Turbo II motor in the first gen. I have always wanted one of these, but as of lately, my attention has been drawn to the Supercharger kits offered at Atkinsrotary.

The supercharger just makes more sense to me, considering that one of the the rotary engines biggest drawbacks is the lack of torque. A supercharger (generally speaking) makes a more linear styled power, as opposed the the "peaky" styled power of a turbo. This would definately help make more torque, but on the other hand, a small, quick spooling turbo will also help with the bottom end.

Money wise, a 7" Camden supercharger with boost-prepped Holley Carb and all the fixin's needed is (if memory serves me correct) $3500. Now, I can pick up a *** Spec Turbo II motor with 30,000km on it on eBay or from a buddy of mine for ~$2000. However, to get the motor, installed, and have a custom exhaust manifold made will put me in the range of $4000 (for a basic set-up) to as high as your imagination can fathom.

Naturally, if I were going to drop in the TII motor, I would probably have the motor streetported (a grand or two), and I'd up the boost a little.

However, if I got my motor rebuilt (a grand or so) and got the supercharger, I could have ~280-320+ horsepower for ~$4500 (minus knick-knack crap).

P.S. for those of you thinking "Only 280-320 horsepower?" a 300 wheel horsepower first generation RX-7 is easily in the low 12 second/high 11 second quarter mile range. You have to remember, the first gen only weighs around 2300 pounds...

Sorry for the long post...
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I thought I have seen that RX-7 before. That has to be one of the cleanest ones I have ever seen. Here's my 1990 Eagle Talon. A little rough around the edges, but it is my winter project car. I intend to have it running and hopefully have all the body work done by spring. I am still debating whether to put the stock spoiler back on, though. She has 2.5" Cat-back w/an Arospeed muffler, K&N Intake w/ Dejon Tool intake pipe, TurboXS H-34 BOV, Autometer Ultralite Boost Gauge, DSM Link, KYB AGX Gas Shocks, Eibach Springs.
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whats the model on the talon. i know eclipses have gs-x, and gs-t, are the talons the same, since there basically the same car? id get a 1st gen gsx if i could find one around here for a good price. 1st gen sleepers are sooo Hot, just like ur rx7


300 horses in any car is gonna run around 12's depending on weight. old ass light cars can fly with little amounts or horses. a buddy of mine has a 90' crx hf (weighs about 1900 lbs ), with an integra gsr motor, i/h/e = about 190 horse. and it will run low 13's, he's plannin on a stage 2 rev hard turbo kit, like 15psi. hes wants to hit 11's. i cant wait, his parents sponsor him btw, there both doctors
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Talon is the TSi AWD model.
DL=Base Talon, 1.8 92 hp
ES/ESi=A step up, 2.0 135 hp
TSi=Turbo model, 1.0 195 hp
yes, they are the same car, just different badging. My goal for the car is for it to look like right when it rolled off the assembly line. I am really going for the sleeper look on this one. Hopefully the gauges and the S-AFC II and FMIC will not give it away. I wanna run a low 13 on the 14B, but I want this car into the 12s (a high 11 would be nice). I know what you mean about the first-gens, though. I have looked forever around here and have not been able to get a decent deal on one. Every one has too many miles and asks too much.
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thepunkdrummer- Yeah, good way to go on that Tsi... Sleeper look is awesome.
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Talon is the TSi AWD model.
DL=Base Talon, 1.8 92 hp
ES/ESi=A step up, 2.0 135 hp
TSi=Turbo model, 1.0 195 hp
yes, they are the same car, just different badging. My goal for the car is for it to look like right when it rolled off the assembly line. I am really going for the sleeper look on this one. Hopefully the gauges and the S-AFC II and FMIC will not give it away. I wanna run a low 13 on the 14B, but I want this car into the 12s (a high 11 would be nice). I know what you mean about the first-gens, though. I have looked forever around here and have not been able to get a decent deal on one. Every one has too many miles and asks too much.
they are very hard to find with low mileage, i can find 2nd gen eclipses with like 75k, but the asking price is insane
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First gens with low mileage are almost impossible to find. I saw a 91 w/44k in the trader a couple weeks back, but they wanted 6.5k for it. Second gens aren't much better pricewise, anyways.
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This is my baby, slightly different though. The car sits 1.5 inches lower now and new set of shoes are on their way (Konig monsoons 17's) ill get a shot of the mean modded engine bay if i can find my damn cam
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I wanna see this "mean" modded engine bay if you get the pics. What all does the car have done to it?
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