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**PbRicer** · August 27th, 01:57 PM

so my roomate "isntanything" got his dye stainless barrel in yesterday. we both found out why people say the 98c stock barrel is horrible. so since i didnt want to copy him

i ordered a J&J ceramic 14 inch. his dye is 12.... i was just wondering how compairable they were to each other. can i expect similar accuracy.

FearTheCocker · August 27th, 02:12 PM

ceramic is great barrel you dont have to use a squegge in the game if you break a ball in it. It is quite good and alot cheaper.
ok is it me or are open blow backs ie spyders tippyd are less accurate than closed bolt systems cause i compared my tippy and cocker and the cocker was way more accurate

**Ryan_P** · August 27th, 04:51 PM

well a cocker is a alot higher end gun than a tippy or a spyder so yea its gonna be more accurate

**PbRicer** · August 27th, 04:59 PM

ok so how will the J&J compair to the Dye barrel?

Alpha · August 27th, 05:02 PM

Accuraccy has nothign to dow ith the gun.. Well, it does, but gun x isn't more accurate then gun y. ITs about barrels and paint./

**PbRicer** · August 27th, 05:07 PM

we will be running woods ball with draxxus blaze balls... in two tippmann 98cs.... i kinda wana know how the two will compair .... i dont care about cockers

FearTheCocker · August 27th, 05:20 PM

YEA GET A Ceramic great paint barrel match when i had it. i got the blue and white shell ones

**lbreevesii** · August 31st, 02:42 PM

i beg to differ alpha. there is a reason why cockers are more accurate than open bolt blowbacks. part of it is fewer parts throwin themselves around throwing you off. another part is that they are much more efficent. there is a reason why people buy better front bolt's for their tippy, spyder, or anything for tha tmatter. they mean less turbulance of the co2 or hpa as it hitts the ball, resulting in higher accuracy.

btw alpha: love the siggy: viva la resistance!

**PbRicer** · August 31st, 02:56 PM

just a little update, the J&J is much better then stock but cant compare to the dye stainless.... AND i'm having new issues with the gun since i painted it and put a rocket cock II on there.... did both in one evening.

**DayoftheGreek** · August 31st, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lbreevesii

i beg to differ alpha. there is a reason why cockers are more accurate than open bolt blowbacks. part of it is fewer parts throwin themselves around throwing you off. another part is that they are much more efficent. there is a reason why people buy better front bolt's for their tippy, spyder, or anything for tha tmatter. they mean less turbulance of the co2 or hpa as it hitts the ball, resulting in higher accuracy.

btw alpha: love the siggy: viva la resistance!

Thatrs higher consistancy. If they both are firing with the exact same conditions, then paint-barrel is the only accuracy determining factor. But since they wont get the exact same consistancy with both guns, maybe you can say gun a is more accurate then gun b. who knows, i guess its just how u look at it.

**Smitty** · August 31st, 03:46 PM

Dye stainless. I cleaned my wifes J&J Ceramic the other day and noticed that in a few small places the ceramic had flaked off inside the barrel. Doesnt seem to affect the performance but it made me a little uneasy seeing that, like it is gonna get worse, what caused it and is it gonna contribute to in-barrel ball breaks. Other than that though its a great barrel and 50 times quieter than my loud obnoxious flatline.

**IsntAnything** · September 1st, 06:36 AM

Aww Pb, do you feel the need to run out and spend more money on a collection of barrels cause mine kicks yours a$$?

Just kidding, I think both barrels shoot about the same. The J&J seems to be quieter but also more fragile. The Dye Stainless is like a lead pipe (heavy) but maybe a smidge more accurate with the paint we are using.

Flatliner105 · September 1st, 01:10 PM

different guns do have different accuracies...it all depends on the bolt and consistancy...since consitancy is pretty much half of the equation to get accuracy...guns will make a diff. in accuracy.

**Uncle_T** · September 1st, 01:16 PM

didn't we just get out of a consistency flame war?

which btw i still loved that pic...

anyway a 12-14 inch barrel no your not going notice much of a difference is accuracy ASSUMING consistency and paint to barrel match are THE SAME. now i think the agreed upon sizes for a barrel that didn't affect the performace drasticly was 12"-16" 0? might be alittle off... but i think it was something like 10" lose some range and a bigger spred whereas 18"+ to much friction, lose distance, and more breaks 0? not to sure about the last one

thats my take on it

**PbRicer** · September 1st, 01:34 PM

well i might be looking for a new barrel since this one seems to be more fragile. eventually anyway. maybe a boomstick or some SP barrel. till then i'll just fire in bursts for a little more "accuracy".... aka accuracy by volume.

Flatliner105 · September 1st, 04:00 PM

10" is a lil to short...but if ur a front player go for it...12" is a good all around...14" you really wont notice any difference between the 12...and any longer is to long.

Length in paintball is NOTHING...its all consistancy and paint to barrel match.

**Uncle_T** · September 1st, 10:51 PM

i've heard 16" is a good size for airball fields don't play airball fields so i don't know though but yeah 10" is to small which is hwy you don't see it and 18" is to big which is why again you don't see to many of them anywhere between 12-16 though and you shouldn't notice much of a difference

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