FASTER? They're pretty close to the same. Where they differ is that the Marq will kick less and the Vice will get better efficiency. Throw a Proficiency kit in the Marq, and it'll get equal efficiency.
Nowadays, all markers are basically the same speed. Almost every modern markers noids are limited to the same general level, that is FAR faster than you can pull the trigger or a hopper can realistically feed.
Oh alright. I'm looking for a used Bob Long cause I'm saving up. I kinda want to wait till some pictures of the Marq Victory come out. Its pretty obvious from its shadow its a gas through grip but you never know. Also, why are there caps in tournaments, yet everybody is obsessed with how fast their gun can go.
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Would a Marq go faster than a Vice if they both had 4 eyes and a good Tadoa or Virtue. Cause I'm what you guys would call a backyard baller. I play games with my friends in my woods and side yard and stuff. I like fast guns, ALOT, so whichever is faster is going to be my choice. They say the Marq cycles 33% faster. Mike from TechPb loves the Marq and does anyone know anything about MARQ VICTORY?
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Would a Marq go faster than a Vice if they both had 4 eyes and a good Tadoa or Virtue. Cause I'm what you guys would call a backyard baller. I play games with my friends in my woods and side yard and stuff. I like fast guns, ALOT, so whichever is faster is going to be my choice. They say the Marq cycles 33% faster. Mike from TechPb loves the Marq and does anyone know anything about MARQ VICTORY?
SORRY FOR THE RIDICULOUSLY LONG POST
4 eyes only help on semi mode. On semi mode, they're both already capable of such faster cycling then your fingers will EVER be capable of that it's a moot point.
Neither needs a board either. Spending money on a Tadao or Virtue is, to be honest, a total waste of money. They're cool if you get the OLED series, but they don't really do anything the stock board doesn't.
Don't decide on which is faster. You'll never see either shooting at their max cyclic rate. Plain and simple. Both will outshoot modern hoppers, both will outshoot your fingers in semi by a LOT.
It comes down to Marq will shoot smoother and be a little more involved in routine maintenance. Vice will be more efficient and easier to do maintenance, but will have more kick. This is the only realistic difference. A theoretical difference of 8 bps (33% is BS...MAYBE 15-20% faster in theoretical limit for the Marq series) will not mean ANYTHING when you can't reach the slower of the 2's theoretical max ROF.
I heard that the Vice doesn't kick that much plus if your not a baby and have gorrilla hands like mine kick isn't a problem. What do you mean by smoother, same as less kick. Lastly, someone please go to Bob Long and ask him for some pics of the Marq Victory.
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Smoother basically means less kick. Not saying the Vice has a lot. But it DOES have more than a Marq. Which some people dislike. I like both markers a lot myself. I have a Marq Rapper. But either is an incredible marker. And BL offers really good value on most of his markers.
A gun can be smooth and still have kick. A poorly tuned matrix is the perfect example of one. You tune them souly for efficiency and they will kick like a mule, but will still be smooth.
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IMO, Both superior in performance to a stock A1. With Magno system, A1 superior to both. And I'm a big fan of the A1. I have an A1 Fly (which is more heavily milled and has the Magno kit stock), and 3 A1's (2 of which are going to be Magno'd). Magno'd A1 is, IMO, the BEST ram-air poppet valve marker made. It is very, very nearly as smooth as a spool valve, while having the efficiency still of a traditional poppet valve. Of course, the A1 also has the fully programmable OLED board, and a USB connection so that the user can update the software on it himself. Laser eyes stock. Oh, and they're SEXY!!! Yes, I'm a huge fan of Angel 1's.
Bob Long Marq or Vice + 4c eyes + Yukuza oled VS. Angel A1 with Magno. P.S. Whats the difference between the A1 and A1 fly and would you sell me one of those, haha.
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Angel 1 Fly is more milled so lighter than the A1. It also has Magno already. The ASA will take standard regs, it has 3 piece eye covers stock, and the foregrip and grips have "fly paper" (sandpaper).
For the comparison, Vice & Magno'd A1 will get about same efficiency, better than Marq. Magno'd A1 will shoot smoothest, followed by Marq, followed by Vice. Any of the 3 will be insanely fast. Vice will be the lightest followed by the Marq then the A1. It really does get to the point where they all 3 are so good you'd have to base your decision on which you found most comfortable. I would go Magno A1 > Marq > Vice, ecspecially since going used, that would cost ~$450 for the Angel, ~$500 for the Marq (assuming 6), and close to $700 for the Vice. But the differences are MINUTE.
Thanks tlmiller. Just about every thread I post you give me a great in depth response. You should get a reward I've found some pretty good deals but I don't have the money yet. Angel FTW!
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I've found some pretty good deals but I don't have the money yet. Angel FTW!
