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p8NtB/-\113r · December 22nd, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMP0fPAINTBALL

dont you think

Stfu. I could own you with a Blade II.

**HP_lovecraft** · December 22nd, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337PAINTBALLER

Most general guns made by Brass Eagle are indeed poor quality.

Compared to what?
Again, its pointless to make statements without any proof to back them up.

Is the Brass Eagle Quadra low quality? Its considered one of the best STBB's on the market?

Is the talon or blade low quality? WHAT ARE YOU COMPARING IT TO?
This is a simple concep. Quality is a RELATIVE TERM.

So, lets look at guns in the $10-20 price range. You have Talons and Blades. All are functional, and work as intended.

What else is there? Vulcan? Total crap. There has been lots of crappy guns, but NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN ABLE TO SHOW that any gun that was better then the Talon/Blade in that price range.

Until you can do that, that you have no argument. Get back to us when you can.

nick

***Barber*** · December 22nd, 04:48 PM

Truth.

For under $30 the blade is actually pretty good. Look at what it is made to do. It's made for some kids to play paintball in their back yard, not play PSP events with.

***Boss*** · December 22nd, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337PAINTBALLER

Cut him some slack Boss. Most newbies don't know about Rainmakers.

Most general guns made by Brass Eagle are indeed poor quality. But Brass Eagle helps promote the sport to new players on a budget. They later grab a better gun and then the cycle repeats.

cut him some slack? I don't expect anyone to know anything about rainmakers actually. Everytime i go to a field i get questions from the most experienced players on my marker. I do expect everyone to read and understand the rules though. Im giving him a hard time for breaking the rules not anything else. And like HP said its all relative. You can take any BE marker you want, list every bad thing about it you can think of, and i can list more reasons why someone would actually buy it and ways to fix every problem for little or no money.

***Pierced*** · December 23rd, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Boss

Nope, i think you suck actually, and if you don't back up your statment then your going to be banned. You definitly shouldn't be saying anything about BE when all your shootin is an E99. My BE marker will tear you and anything spyder apart. Not to mention most high end electros.

man that right there made my day

**Number One Andrew** · December 23rd, 09:53 AM

BE Section gets about one of these every other month. Same results, each and every time.

**1337** · December 26th, 06:21 PM

Comparing an Avenger to a Spyder, the Spyder is much better quality.

And comparing to Pirahnas in the same price range.

I never said the Talons and Blades were crappy. Blade 2000 Edition was my first gun and damnit I loved it. Never actually played a game with it at an actual field.

But I got an eradicater in my closet and a few of my buddies got em too. Damn things always break and I did take good care of it.

A lot of it is Stereotyping. HP, the Quadra technically is and isn't Brass Eagle. It's made by JT but funded by Brass Eagle.

I'm talking about ACTUAL BE Markers.

IMO, the older Brass Eagle guns were much better quality than the ones today. I remember 6, almost 7 years ago shooting some nice BE guns. I think this was before electros or right when the Shocker and Rainmaker where out.

All in all, I'd prefer a spyder Victor for $60 over an eradicater for $70.

**paintthecatBLUE** · December 26th, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337PAINTBALLER

All in all, I'd prefer a spyder Victor for $60 over an eradicater for $70.

lol, if you paid $70 for an eradicator you got seriously ripped off. at walmart they are $55, and they come with a mask, hopper, co2 tank, squeegee, spare replacement parts, two 100rd pods, and last but not least... instructions. $70 for JUST the gun is a major rip-off indeed (whether it came with instructions or not

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my friend got an eradicator because he couldnt afford anything better and wanted to play paintball. IMO, if it can get a paintball up to at least 270 fps, it was worth the money. if you have good aim and a good angle on someone you only need one paintball, not an electronic gun to shoot 374bps hoping one of those might go into the wind just right and hit the other person. so for the price they simply cannot be beat, and with some skill you can do just as good as anyone with an autococker.

**viet661** · December 26th, 11:12 PM

BE is meant to be a company that give out extremely low priced markers to start the sport of paintball, they do they job fine. The problem is that now spyders , which are far better markers (esp the Victors) are now dropping down to what 40-50dollars? Jt markers (if you want to concider them non BE) packages are 50-70dollars for a 3.5E, even seen a Core Spyder Xtra knockoff go for 30dollars shipped, besides the blade and talon BE guns arent really worth it anymore, starter sets w/ better markers are getting cheaper n cheaper. BE did its job of giving away starter sets are dirt prices but i think they need to reconcider their gameplan in the pb world. Dunno Rainmaker 2? ^^ or even cheaper prices o.O? dunno just my thoughts

**HP_lovecraft** · December 27th, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337PAINTBALLER

A lot of it is Stereotyping. HP, the Quadra technically is and isn't Brass Eagle. It's made by JT but funded by Brass Eagle. I'm talking about ACTUAL BE Markers.

Nice try, but JT and VL -CEASED- to exist when Brass Eagle bought them.

They currently exist IN NAME ONLY. In fact, you proved my point very nicely. Ignorance is ignorance.

BE bought JT and VL so they could have a 3-tiered quality structure. The "BE" name was for entry-level, "VL" was for low/mid level, and "JT" was for mid/high level guns.

If we are talking about the "BE" base guns? They are definetly cheaper then more expensive guns..... because they are cheaper. Duh! Similar guns in the price range? Black Maxx? base Pirahna? Both of those guns have been recalled more then any Brass Eagle gun, and gave a far worse reputation.

It is a concept that I have to repeat a lot because newer players just do not get it. You PAY for what you GET. If you only have $100 to spend on everything, then BE will get you the most for your money. They make the "BEST" guns in there price range, which happens to be the low-range.

The greatest irony is that "Brass Eagle Bashers" almost always use Brass Eagle (VL) hoppers, and Brass Eagle (JT) Jersies. Always makes me smile.

Nick

**ZoWnX** · December 27th, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HP_lovecraft

The greatest irony is that "Brass Eagle Bashers" almost always use Brass Eagle (VL) hoppers, and Brass Eagle (JT) Jersies. Always makes me smile.

not defending them, but they are bashing there ability to produce markers, not hoppers.

**KingFikiElectra** · December 27th, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss

lol, yea that true, but with an angel feed neck (not a highrise either) and a couple adjustments i can get this back up RM working before i get my main one back. Which will by far be the sickest gun that ever came from a Brass Eagle factory. And at the same time you won't feel bad laughing your ass off at it, until you get owned by it that is...

Can you get some pics?

***Born2drive*** · December 27th, 07:08 PM

This thread made my day. 95% of paintabllers(maybe more) started off with some type of B.E. gun (including myself). Hey, hotshot with an E99 over here, dissing guns that cost a whole 60 dollars cheaper then yours. Get some skill, then the marker wont matter as much.

**1337** · December 27th, 08:31 PM

Maybe my experiance with the BRass Eagle guns ahs been ****ty.

My Genesis, god that thing broke every time I aired it up it seemed.

My pirahna which i got cheaper was much better.

I dunno.

***Boss*** · December 27th, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoWnX

not defending them, but they are bashing there ability to produce markers, not hoppers.

yea josh, but HP's point is that most people who bash BE bash the company not just the markers. The company would then include viewloader and JT products.

Trust me, they almost never just bash the marker.

**ZoWnX** · December 27th, 11:33 PM

I bash my clubs president all the time... :-D... even though at the last free play day you attended you were in a lot more often then i was.

***Boss*** · December 28th, 12:03 PM

yea, and eric even has a video of me getting you out :P

**HP_lovecraft** · December 28th, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 1337PAINTBALLER

Maybe my experiance with the BRass Eagle guns ahs been ****ty.

That is called an anecdote.

For example: Every FORD I have ever owned has been total and complete crap. I'm inclined to think that all fords are like that, but I know that is false.

In truth, I bought cheap, crappy cars, that by coincindence were all fords. Cheap Chevies and Hondas are just as crappy.

We are really just splitting hairs on minor details. IE A "Walmart Brass Eagle" verses a "Walmart Pirahna". Differences are minor, though IMO the Brass Eagle is a slightly better deal FOR THE MONEY.

If we are comparing a $1500 Angel verses a $50 Brass Eagle? That is stupid, and only shows that the person making the comparisen focuses to much on technology, and lacks the actual ability to understand tha.t

Nick

**Oscarine** · December 28th, 03:05 PM

I think for the money, Brass Eagle guns do what there supposed to.. and make decent backyard guns. If its Brass Eagle vs Brass Eagle you can have some fun, if your looking down the barrel of some guy with even a tippy '98 or Spyder with your Blade pump I really don't find that to be that much fun. So that being said I would recommend..
1. Not taking these to actual fields with a few exceptions IE. Rainmaker your going to be outgunned pretty baddly.
2. If your paying 40$s for a fullsetup to play for a few hours which is less than I pay to go play for a day with all my own gear before buying paint, these guns are just fine.
Saying that Brass Eagle guns suck is taking them out of the context of what they're really made to do. I'd say the higher end current line-up of BE guns are not good values, they work, but its actually the cheaper BEs IMO that are decent values for what you can do with them