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March 18th, 05:36 PM
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it could be useful in scenario games, im pretty sure ive seen mass produced smoke grenades specifically for paintball before. i know this has nothing to do with paintball, but while we're on the subject of homemade grenades, i heard of this crazy indian guy once that made flash-bang grenades out of tennis balls and some other stuff, then sold them for $1, for no reason.
think about it in scenario though, you could through a smoke grenade into an enemy base and force them all out, then when they come out you light them up.
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March 18th, 06:14 PM
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I'm sure the staff would love it when your homemade smoke thing catches the woods or a bunker on fire. Or if someone gets sick from sucking in the fumes.
I'm almost sure I've seen rules that make these things illegal to have in most scenario games.
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March 19th, 12:03 AM
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where can you get potassum nitrate ive only heard of this stuff in chem class
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March 19th, 12:42 AM
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try a local farm supply store... they might have it.... And this stuff is safe, so you dont have to worry about poisioning ppl.
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March 19th, 04:16 AM
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Screaming Koala
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It's used in farming, mostly with livestock. The military apparently used to use it as well. It is a common preservative and food additive.You might be better off asking for it by it's common name. There are a number of places you can try to buy it, but I don't support any of you trying a smokebomb recipe straight from the anarchist cookbook. The same components you're talking about in this thread, sugar and KNO3, are used in homemade rocket engines.
Granted, it is fairly safe, but for crying out loud it says you can do this in your home. If it lights in the pan, it will generate a huge amout of smoke. Almost 600 time it's size. Imagine your neighbors see thick white smoke pouring out of your house. There'll probably be fire departments and cops and so on, and you trying to explain your way out of this mess.
I know damn well that you're going to try it anyway. I used to do stuff like this and worse not even a few years ago. At least try to be safe. Do it outside over a small sterno burner or camp stove. Wear gloves and a face mask. You know, stuff like that.
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March 20th, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Torch
The reason we have this in a Paintball forum is what?
I don't think we need people posting about improvised fuses and what's basically an incendiary device.
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Lighten up man... 
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March 20th, 08:11 PM
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Ducttape and some scraps?
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Originally Posted by Torch
The reason we have this in a Paintball forum is what?
I don't think we need people posting about improvised fuses and what's basically an incendiary device.
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Never used a smoke bomb in a senario game?
Anyway this isn't straight out of the anarchist cookbook. This is a recipie that I've tried and tried again MANY times and it does produce MASSIVE ammounts of HAMLESS smoke.
BTW the "store" name for pN is "Salt Peter" and you can usually buy it in a drug store.
Oh and DO BE CAREFULL when making this stuff!
Outside over a camp stove with a glas or cast iron pot is a good idea (NEVER use an ALUMIMUM pot).
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March 21st, 12:24 AM
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just wondin what will happen if you use a alumimum pot...will if cause it to start smokin of what..thanks
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March 21st, 01:27 AM
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when providing instructions and telling someone to NEVER do something, make sure you state WHAT will happen if they do, otherwise they will try by themself out of curiosity just to see what will happen! lol
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March 21st, 08:18 AM
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Ducttape and some scraps?
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Well honestly I have never tried an alumimum pot because the original instructions I got from my sicence teacher told us not to. (this is the same guy that walked us step by step through the process of manufacturing nitroglycerin... But I'm NOT sharing THAT secret  ) Anyway it could be one of several reasons:
#1 Alumimum pots tend to heat up MUCH faster and thus make you smoke bomb intoa smoking mess.
#2 Alumimum might react with salt peter and make some kind of poisonous gas of some sort.
#3 Some other nasting thing.
Anyway obvously if the answer were #2 (or #3) then I suggest following my old teachers advice and NOT using the alumimum. (would you realy want to take the risk anyway? Corningwear isn;t that expensive  )
Oh and just FYI my memory was a little sketchy on the exact details of this formula from school (it's been a LONG time since I've graduated) so this formula is a mixture of three things:
#1 My (sometimes failing) memory.
#2 Trial and error
#3 Research on a bunch of "ghetto" "do it yourself" paintball pages.
Anyway final word:
Follow the directions to the LETTER (or risk making a BIG mess and possably making somthing poisonous) and use at your own risk.
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March 21st, 09:55 AM
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Never used a smoke bomb in a senario game?
Anyway this isn't straight out of the anarchist cookbook. This is a recipie that I've tried and tried again MANY times and it does produce MASSIVE ammounts of HAMLESS smoke.
BTW the "store" name for pN is "Salt Peter" and you can usually buy it in a drug store.
Oh and DO BE CAREFULL when making this stuff!
Outside over a camp stove with a glas or cast iron pot is a good idea (NEVER use an ALUMIMUM pot).
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March 21st, 12:28 PM
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NitroGlycerin??? That is insane...Wish we made that in our science class.
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March 21st, 01:12 PM
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oh em gee... you should patent that. 
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March 21st, 08:15 PM
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What is pN? If it is supposed to be Potassium Nitrate, Potassium is K not P, and nitrate is NO3. So the formula would be KNO3.
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March 21st, 08:47 PM
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lets play a game its called "the ammendment game" ready? ok what is the newest amendment to the constitution, two works, ryhmes with, gatrtiot pact...did you guess it? DING DING DING!!!! YES the patriot act! prepare to labeled as a terroristand thwon in jail and be bubbas new best friend
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March 21st, 09:10 PM
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Screaming Koala
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Chemistry students everywhere would be in prison by that standard.
Stococker- I'm sure he was just using pN as a shorthand for potassium nitrate. I hope so at least.
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March 22nd, 09:04 AM
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Ducttape and some scraps?
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Chemistry students everywhere would be in prison by that standard.
Stococker- I'm sure he was just using pN as a shorthand for potassium nitrate. I hope so at least.
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Atleast some folks figured out that yes pN is sort for "Potassium Nitrate".  Giving people the formula (AKA KNO3) would be silly. Most folks don't know that Potassium Nitrate is saltpeter so calling it KNO3 would realy throw 'em for a loop.
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March 22nd, 09:06 AM
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Ducttape and some scraps?
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lets play a game its called "the ammendment game" ready? ok what is the newest amendment to the constitution, two works, ryhmes with, gatrtiot pact...did you guess it? DING DING DING!!!! YES the patriot act! prepare to labeled as a terroristand thwon in jail and be bubbas new best friend
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I see you mised the part in my sig where it says I'm Canadian. 
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March 28th, 09:54 PM
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oops lol sorry, also i dont know about chemistry i just know that you can get yourself spied on by saying stuff like that, when i need a smoke bomb i yell fire in the hole and throw a stick...most of them are to scared to realize its only a stick
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