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**rookiepber** · January 27th, 08:29 PM

I have a 98 Custom and I'm sick of being outshot..I'm not sayin I suck b/c of it but i really would like to have a gun w/ good bps. I did the math and all the stuff i'd need on my 98 for a response trigger is gonna be a lot so i just figured i might as well just get a faster marker. It just seems crazy that a gun with and eye and 20 bps is only $200...can they be trusted and besides an egg, what other stuff should i buy with it???

**20bps_tes** · January 28th, 11:31 AM

tes is a very nice marker for its price range, u might have a couple ploblems at first but most if not all questions u have can be answered on this fourm. also click the links in my sig there helpful

**Hobo_Joe** · January 28th, 02:20 PM

Its coz of the name "Dragun" if it said Bob Long then it would be $900

**lilkube** · January 28th, 02:56 PM

I Got A TES DRAGUN TOO IT IS A GOOD GUN

**dirtrider54** · January 28th, 03:27 PM

i have one that I'm selling... there pretty nice guns... mine has a 14" 2 peice cp barrel pm me if you interested

**Gabriot** · January 28th, 03:30 PM

They beat any gun in their price range, if you're looking at that price range, they are the only way to go. They are only so cheap because dragun as a company is no more, so the gun's are going way cheap. They are soo much better than what you pay for them. My brother has one, outshoots me anyday.

**SupahFly21** · January 28th, 04:41 PM

and for 5 dollars, get a timmy microswitch on that thing. its makes the pull SOOO light, i just got one, and it owns. i can get a great consistant 15 bps easily

**ToridXFast** · January 30th, 12:44 PM

get an odyssey gun they are the same with some minor upgrades i got my odyssye torid x for 200 bucks with a delrin bolt on it, and parts kit they are dependable never had a problem and odyssey has ok tech support.

**rookiepber** · January 31st, 01:57 PM

what's different about it? what are the minor upgrades? Is it basicly better just because it will have some tech support? it's $160 in a certain place.

**ToridXFast** · January 31st, 04:06 PM

its backlit lcd screen differnent settings and accesories on the board like differnet modes, rate of fire its recharchable so it has how much charge is left and in a day i shot over 4 boxes through it on one charge, so it holds up well its easy to put in tourny mode with a jumper, rubber black grips instead of the old hard ones and most come with an odyssey delrin bolt, and backed by support since dragun went belly up and its not like they had any before that, some other nice guns are the new diablos for the price range, all pneumatic like the t1 http://www.diablodirect.com/wrath.asp i have heard it is odyssey and diablo together but im sure they look pretty nice though

**unknownpsycho** · February 2nd, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobo_Joe

Its coz of the name "Dragun" if it said Bob Long then it would be $900

That, and the <sarcasm>minor</sarcasm> difference between a blowback and an electropneumatic...

TESs are great entry/intermediate level tournament guns. I've had many people impressed with how fast I could rip on mine- they refused to believe it was a spyder clone. The only major setbacks I can come up with is the incompatability of parts- they use metric screws, no aftermarket grips fit, and the odd sized air fittings. Other than that, it's a great investment- you'll really get your money's worth out of this one.

**Hobo_Joe** · February 4th, 02:51 PM

I have been asked 3 times so far "so how do you like your timmy" lol (have a T1)

**SupahFly21** · February 4th, 05:22 PM

where've you been hobo? havent seen u on in a while. oh crap. you have 666 posts. lol
im ognna get owned today.

anyways, teh torid x has rubber grips, instead of plastic ones, it has a little screw on the ASA if you want to put a gauge there, it has a clamping feeneck, and all the other stuff that toridxfast said

**p8ntballweird** · February 6th, 01:41 AM

Awesome bps, and nice stock accuracy but i'm having constant problems... but i don't take care of mine too great so if you do get one make sure you're gonna give it all the loving it needs.

**Hobo_Joe** · February 6th, 10:51 AM

Sup fly? Havent had time mate... trying to sort out stuff for moving back home

**rookiepber** · February 6th, 03:46 PM

so is the torid x more reliable than the TES

**Dudeus** · February 6th, 06:09 PM

not neccessarily more reliable, just better. but if you take care of it and replace a few parts she will take care of you

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobo_Joe

Its coz of the name "Dragun" if it said Bob Long then it would be $900

wtf???

**rookiepber** · February 6th, 08:05 PM

what parts do i need to replace???

**Dudeus** · February 6th, 08:43 PM

reg and bolt are the main ones. a bolt isnt a necesity but the stock ones stratches up ur body pretty bad

**SupahFly21** · February 6th, 10:15 PM

yea i shoulda gotten a bolt earlier. my body's all scratched up there. but no biggy, it barely shows