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**Fourtys** · July 13th, 05:11 PM

Which of these markers would you buy and WHY? Yes I realize this is the trix board thats just the gun I'm leaning twords and wanted your opinions more then others. Please note all prices were pulled from a single website, so I'm sure you can get them for more/less other places, these are just generalizations for reference.

ICD 2004 B2K w/ PDS ($624.95)

E-Marker WGP Super Stock ($639.95)

WGP E-Marker Nightkast Autococker ($739.95)

DYE Matrix ($825.95)

Smart Parts E-Marker Shocker 03 Basic ($689.95)

Smart Parts E-Marker Shocker 03 Vision ($869.95)

WDP Angel Speed ($839.95)

Johnny_Fred · July 13th, 05:30 PM

1 up from the bottom because it's the most expensive

**DaBluedevil** · July 13th, 05:55 PM

Ok, now to an intelligent post.

The b2k w/ pds is decent, however it lacks in reliability and consistency(horrible inline reg).

Super stock is nice, but needs upgrades to get the full potential of the eblade.

Nightkast is nicer than the superstock, but still needs upgrades to get the full potential out of the eblade.

Dye Matrix is really nice, not that great eff but can be fixed.

Shockers - Won't even comment as I am extremely biased against them.

Speed's are alright, sensi blows, if you hk it, their nice as hell. Otherwise, meh.

Overall, I'd go matrix, or if you like, some timmys are worth the money. Texas Storm timmys are half bad, but if you have the money get a new 2k4 platform based timmy(eg. Alias).

Matricies are 'gas hogs', but that can be fixed very simply by ordering the freeflow adjustable bolt, or getting a larger nitro tank, or even better, getting free air all day at your field. Hey, so what, now you gotta fill after every game, big whoop.

**P8ntballer31** · July 13th, 07:38 PM

I say DYE Matrix, they look sick as hell and they perform really good, u can upgrade them so much, they are awesome, i think thats what ima go buy eventually.......

**SpYdErGuY7080** · July 13th, 07:47 PM

sig big enough?

matrix, i <3 them. Next to alias timmys it is my fav marker

**P8ntballer31** · July 13th, 08:04 PM

Yeah i think ill take the canadian baller outta my sig. lol..... yeah its big lol

**BALLER619** · July 13th, 08:12 PM

04 Dye matrix LCD. They will outperform every gun up there in every catagory except for in weight and effeciency. But upgrades can get the matrix shooting 2000 shots off a 68/4500 fill. They are a very simple gun and they shoot so nice that most people will fall in love with them. All you need is a clamping no-rise for $30 cus the stock rise is kinda tall.

Next gun I'd get up there would be an 04 vision shocker, then the nightkast.

**bunkertime** · July 13th, 08:22 PM

Matrix, Thats all i gotta saw, outta box... they blow all those guns outta the water. Speed needs HK, And all the other guns need Expsensive upgraded to get their full potention, But outta box a trix blows them ALL away. all ya gotta do is get Tadao and a Bolt kit and ur set. then later on u can do stuff like an SCM and stuff

**BALLER619** · July 13th, 08:43 PM

^You want even need a SCM anymore, the new 04 lprs work and kinda look like SCMs.

**PaintBallBob** · July 14th, 12:46 AM

go with either the matrix or angel. if weight bothers you go for the angel, otherwise the trix would be best.

**CoWcH** · July 14th, 07:30 AM

trix or vision shocker....depends on what you like....super light..or that tiny bit more performance all around

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