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**SEFishy** · June 20th, 07:21 PM

Hoppers

If you have an EForce marker then you should definitely get an electronic hopper. The following is recommende

Ricochet AK or 2K

Both feed at 12 bps (balls per second) Has the ricochet design to deflect balls, works every so often. Takes one 9v battery. Operates via a little flap in the neck that is pushed down every time a ball goes by it and it triggers the hopper to agitate. Has O-rings on the feed neck to fit all feed necks. Neck is fluted, thus adding strength. Shells are very strong. Ricochet customer service is great.

The only difference between the AK and the 2K is that the 2K does not have a window on the side, but does have an LCD screen on the back with game timer functions and ball counter.

ViewLoader 12volt Revolution (aka ‘12v revvy’ )

Feeds 12-13 bps. Xboarded revvys feed 13 bps constantly. Uses two 9-volt batteries. Operates via a sensor in the neck that detects when there is no ball there and triggers the agitator. The new revvy’s (after Brass Eagle bought out VL) have very weak shells. And break quite easily, so if you play rough you will want to find the old VL shells. To tell, look at the ViewLoader logo, if the ‘i’ has too eyes above it, then it’s the old ones. (this is usually the case, but if I’m wrong, please tell me)

Empire Reloader

Feeds around 13 bps. Takes two 9v batteries. Sound activated. It agitates every time your gun is fired thus preventing miss feeds.

Extreme Rage 9v

Low end Hopper, feeds around 10 bps and takes a single 9v

Compressed Air or N2
Highly recommended. No reaction to cold like co2, Much more consistent, which means better accuracy. HPA tanks can work on any piranha. They maybe 3000-5000 psi, but most have internal preset regulators which lets the air out at a similar rate to co2 (800-900 psi) Other HPA tanks are adjustable (meaning you pick the output pressure, other are low pressure present, some where around 400 psi, these wouldn’t be a good idea for a Piranha.

I will not go into too much further detail, because if you were interested you could go to the section in Paintball forum completely devoted to Air power sources. However, unlike co2 tanks that just have one measurement (e.g.: 20 ounce) Compressed air tanks have two. Cubic Inch and PSI. Most common Cubic Inch (ci) measurements are 48,68,88, and 114. Most common PSI measurements are 3000, 4500, and 5000. When selecting what size you want it all depends on the amount of air you use (i.e.: how much you shoot) and how much money you have. Naturally, bigger tanks cost more. In addition, you can get the tanks in either steel or Carbon Fiber. Steel is very heavy. Its recommend that if you have the cash to get a carbon fiber tank.

Regulators

Next best thing you can buy. If your marker came with a gas-thru grip, definitely get a regulator. Gas-thru grips have horrible consistency. VTL’s and BL’s have better consistency. Regulators do exactly what the name suggests, regulates the amount of air/co2 that gets into the marker. This means that you have better consistency and that means you have better accuracy.
If you plan to stick to co2 then I suggest a Palmers Stabilizer. Beware though, it’s expensive, but it’s the best you can buy. If you plan on going to Compressed Air and have the money, I suggest the AKA Sidewinder. If you have a bit of cash, I say Bob Long Torpedo. If you have no money then look at the Pure Energy (bottom of the line). Some other great regs are CP's, Check It PowerStation, and GenX

Now you’re are done all the practical upgrades. I consider then the most practical because these upgrades can be brought over to a future marker and do the most important things.

**SEFishy** · June 20th, 07:22 PM

Barrels

Now you are probably wondering why this was not in the first section, well because most stock piranha barrels are awesome. In addition, they sport standard bore size, so most paint works well in it.

However, if you feel the need to upgrade, read.

If you are low on money, I suggest one of these three: Custom Products 1 piece barrel, J&J Ceramic Barrel and the Smart Parts Progressive. All of those are great for the price. If you are considering the Smart Parts Tear Drop, do not. You might as well pay 10-15 dollars less and get the Progressive. Why? Because the only difference you will notice between the two is the price and the porting. Unless you really like the look of the Tear Drop, get the Progressive instead. In addition, a cool thing about the J&J Ceramic is that it can shoot through breaks.

If you have more money or plan to get into tournaments, look into barrel kits. There are many too chose from. Such as the Freak, Empire and Pipe For further information go to the Barrels and Paintballs section of Paintball forum.

Bolt

The only way it will be worth the upgrade is if it is Delrin. The choices are limited. There is the Evil bolt, Shocktech supafly and the Boss bolt, out of the three, the Boss bolt is most recommended. The only advantage of upgrading a bolt is lowering the pressure. Which is achieved by a lighter bolt, hence recommending only Delrin? Lowering pressure allows your marker to use less co2/air and lower kick back a bit. Also with the boss bolt it is Delrin but still has o-rings, so it really lowers kickback.

Trigger Frame

Available Trigger Frames:
- 2k3 Pro-EForce: Multi Mode
- 2k3 EForce: Multi-Mode Firing
- 2k2 (aka G3) EForce: Semi Automatic
- 45* Aluminum Trigger Frame: Mechanical
- 45* Composite Trigger Frame: Mechanical (plastic)
- Mako Storm: multi-mode firing (boo-ya went out of business though, it will be hard to find one of these)

If your marker was an EForce then there is no reason to upgrade your trigger frame. Unless you do not like electronic trigger frames. If you have a composite frame then you really should consider upgrading, composite frames tend to crack and break

Ram Air

There is a little piston with a spring instead the ram air. Allowing for more area for the air to go before entering the gun. Supposedly lowering operating pressure. If you are going to get one you might as well spend the extra money and get one with a gauge so you have an idea of the pressure coming into your marker.

Thumb Screw Velocity Adjuster

Allows you to adjust velocity without an Allen/hex key. Come with tournament locks (a small Allen/hex key that you screw into the rear block tight so the adjuster cannot move)

Valves

Choices are once again limited. Only ones I have really Noticed are the Turbo Valve and Evil Valve. Better valve really only improves consistency, and allows for lower pressure. A very debatable upgrade.

Flush Cocking

The point behind this is that the marker can cock internally so no external moving parts. The secret behind it lies in the bolt and cock rod. The bolt is hollowed out so the rod can go inside it. Then the part on the cocking rod that you put the bolt pin in is very long instead of just a hole just wide enough for the pin. The combination of the two allows the bolt to move up and down the cocking instead of being fixed into place. The cocking rod WILL still move, but with hardly any force

It is a neat personal upgrade. No real advantage to it though.

Drop Forwards

When it comes to drop forwards it is completely preference. There is no ‘best’ drop forward. It all depends on where you feel comfortable. Do you like the tank a lot forward and not far down or not so far forward and a lot down. It all depends on what you want. Moreover, it comes down to what you think looks cooler. Personally I really like the Shocktech Drops.

Other Upgrades:

Beaver Tail

Helps prevent cocking rod from coming back and hitting your lens. If you have flush cocking a beaver tail is useless unless you want it for the looks.

Spring Kits

If you are having troubles achieving the velocity you desire, buy a spring kit. Fairly inexpensive.

Grips

Very good upgrade if you just cannot stand the plastic mech grips. Evil and Dye's are my favorites. Standard 45 style grips WILL NOT fit on EForce frames with out a mod, contact me for how to's(SEFishy)

Triggers

Boss Blade

Standard blade type trigger for the eforce, cost 20$ from ross. great buy if u prefer the blade type triggers

K&K Ring Trigger

Fits only G2 piranhas and are getting very hard to find

Dubs Custom Trigger

this guy from the pmi forums will make any trigger in any shape u want from lexan for the eforce frames, 35$ a pop

Written By D_Smalls,
Edited and Reposted By SEFishy
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***D_Smalls*** · June 20th, 10:14 PM

ah sweet man, i thought that sticky would be lost forever

right on!

**SEFishy** · June 21st, 09:31 AM

lol i had saved it on a disk at one time so i thought i would put it back up after i found it

**Ryan_Page** · June 21st, 12:51 PM

nice move.

**128shot** · June 24th, 06:22 PM

Hmm, well since we're here speaking of upgrades, anyone here look into that hybrid kit? a hardcore fish team all bought them at once and they shoot wicked fast and such

**Szczuldo** · June 24th, 07:27 PM

what "hybrid kit" are you walking about? Are you talking about rj's elecro pneu kit?

**128shot** · June 25th, 04:53 PM

yes RJs electro pheu kit

Alpha · June 29th, 04:56 PM

I'd suggest getting upgrades in this order:

Barrel

If you have an eforce or evo, go in this order:

Barrel
Agitating hopper
Compressed Air
On/Off ASA (if not on Tank)
Gas Thru/Regulator
Electro Trigger (if not eforce)
Agitating hopper

**crazycupcake** · June 29th, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha

I'd suggest getting upgrades in this order:
If you have an eforce or evo, go in this order:

Barrel
Agitating hopper
Compressed Air
On/Off ASA (if not on Tank)
Gas Thru/Regulator
Electro Trigger (if not eforce)
Agitating hopper

wow, yeah...

0? i have no words...
first off... the evo has the eforce trigger frame.
second, you would buy a on/off ASA before you bought a reg? man...
then you said agitating hopper... twice?
and the eforces and the evo all come with either reg or gas thru... so.. yeah..

**spikoman** · June 30th, 10:13 AM

About the bolts the boss bolt acctually weighs more and takes more pressure to run at so the evil bolt would actually save you about 100 shots on a tank, i went to a shop and held the evil bolt and it is litterly 5 times lighter then the stock bolt.

**crazycupcake** · June 30th, 11:41 AM

evil sucks

boss is much better.

**SEFishy** · July 1st, 09:54 PM

find me some hard info and i or smalls will change it to fit

***D_Smalls*** · July 1st, 10:27 PM

yup, if you want to write a mini review on it, ill be glad to post it up there.. whole point is to educate..

**Ryan_Page** · July 7th, 06:10 PM

i need educating, what kind of drop looks the best on a piranha gti?

**SEFishy** · July 12th, 06:15 PM

i prefer mid drops, thats about 2 to 3 inches forward and downward

***D_Smalls*** · July 12th, 11:29 PM

depends, you like flames? or something plain.. if you like plain. go with the shocktech medium drop.. looked real nice on my first piranha

**Ryan_Page** · July 22nd, 11:06 AM

ok, thanks, does the pmi drop look any good?