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**Tippmann_A5** · August 10th, 10:17 AM

There are so many people looking to get an SRT I cant reply to all the threads anymore, please do not get it,if youre looking for a fishy get the GTI instead, its the SRT without flush cocking, the flush cocking is nothing but a gimmick that not only costs more but is a pain in the ass, if a ball gets pinched which it probably will instead of a chop because the SRT runs at a lower pressure than most blowbacks, you have to degass, uncock, regass, recock. This will end with you getting bunkered in a game because the SRT will let out a loud hiss when you degass and will draw every player on the field toward you when they hear that tell-tale sound. The flush cocking piece is also flimsy, and will break just by the action of the gun firing. Most people who have tried it do not like the SRT, I myself have exchanged it for an Imagine, better trigger, better looks, cheaper, more durable. The trigger on the SRT is impossible to go over the 8-9 bps mark because of its odd shape, and replacement triggers are almost non-existant. I have heard nothing but distaste for the SRT, mine has been out of action more than it has been working waiting for the damn flush cocking rod replaccements, and repairs because of another problem I had with my SRT, where it just wouldnt shoot and my proshop couldnt fix it so they sent it away. The trigger alone is enough of a turnoff to stay away from E-Force, but if you must, go GTI instead. Mine came with a broken O-ring out of the box and a velocity which couldnt go over 200 fps without a spring kit.

SRT Cons
-flush cocking; pinch a ball youve got to degass, uncock, regass, cock
(pinching usually happens instead of chopping with the SRT, so be prepared to do this about once a game)

-flush cocking piece is flimsy, Ive gone through 2 in the 6-7 games ive used it
I should have used it more but it took a month each for the piece to come in, the ref at our field with this gun has had the same thing happen along with the chronic velocity problems.

-Low velocity out of box, spare spring is lighter

- 9'' Stock barrel is to tight for most paint, stock bore around .683 i think

-Trigger, whoever designed this should be shot, anyone who has tried my gun hates it, no replacements available

-cocking rod, slams back into your face, no beavertail

-iritating recoil, at first when I was using my bros TL-X 'cause my SRT was broken I thought there was something wrong with the TL-X there was so little recoil compared the SRT

If you must get an SRT get this with it right away

-spring kit -fix those out of box velocity problems

-Evlution 2 -ensure you dont get a pinch as I sayed above you dont want 1

-Barrel -stock is 9'', too tight for most paint, self explained

-Feedneck -stock is tall, doesnt fit hoppers well so the hoper is only half
way in making it taller, the recoil which is more than my bros
TL-X will rattle your hoper off.

Flush Cocking Rod - You will most likely break one within youre first 2 months, depending on how much you play, order it ahead of time

**Tex** · August 10th, 01:38 PM

Why would flushcocking effect chopping or pinching? Thats bull****.

**Tippmann_A5** · August 10th, 01:49 PM

it has nothing to do with more pinching or chopping, it has to do with once a ball gets pinched, its a pain in the ass.

[sarcasm] I just made false information up, and willingly put it in the PMI forum, where many people will have this exact gun so I will look like a fool [/sarcasm]

why dont you read completely what I wrote before you respond?

**crazycupcake** · August 10th, 03:54 PM

TIPPMAN-A5, just cause you cant use your gun doesnt mean its bad.
i have flush cocking on my gun and i love it, my cocking rod doesnt fly back, and even if im shooting 14 balls per second with my stock trigger and i get a jam, all i do is pull back on the cocking rod, as if you were cocking your gun for the first time and your back in action.
the flush cocking is not flimsy, its really strong and it will never break in game unless your out to break it.

also you're critisising the flush cocking, then your saying that the cocking rod flies into your face???? what the fuc*????? flush cocking so MADE SO THAT THE COCKING ROD DOESNT FLY BACK INTO YOUR FACE.
jesus, know your gun parts before you say bad things about them. also, oil your gun ones in a while, oil your flush cocking assembly. i have a ricochet AK and i hardly ever chop or get jams.

it just totaly pisses me off to see people make stupid threads about their own mistakes.
and the eforce trigger is up to you, if you cant walk it, its your problem, i can max out my board with the stock trigger. and there are replacement blade trigger, try RJ's skateworks.

i've been on this forum for about half a year now, and ever since the SRT came out, or any other eforce, i have not seen a single "help my flush cocking system is broken" topic. if your going to be critisising guns like that, why dont we start critising the 1000 dollar guns? yeah, why dont we start with the 03 shocker? man... if you have a problem with your gun, ask, dont starting saying that the gun is bad and that no body should get it.

**Tippmann_A5** · August 10th, 04:29 PM

yes, when you shoot it does come out, it just stays in when youre not shooting

**crazycupcake** · August 10th, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippmann_A5

yes, when you shoot it does come out, it just stays in when youre not shooting

are you dumb? or you really messed up your flush cocking system. i can put my goggles right up to the back on my gun and shoot, and it wont hit them.

***onesikpup*** · August 10th, 04:44 PM

^^^ fully agree. (with cupcake)

ive had my stsg3 for almost 3 yrs, and have not even considered the possibility of my flush cocking rod breaking.

sure, every once in a while, when you mass manufacture anything, you are bound to have a defect somewhere. broken o ring? my god dude, you should have spares anyway...spend the nickel.

velocity problems.....abound in every marker....use oil and the right o rings. turn up the adjuster.

barrel....who the hell uses a stock barrel? and if the paint is too tight, buy different paint, works the same for every gun...hence barrel kits.

cant fit your hopper in? theres more than one way to take care of that...i had no problem with mine.

so you bought a gun you fail to operate correctly, and get mad at the manufacturer....id bet a $1000 that you never even called PMI with your problems. they would have taken care of every one of them for free...immediately...try that with kingman, im sure they care. instead, you relied on some "moron" at your local shop to handle a problem. that was your mistake.

recoil? dont be so retarded....if your that limp wristed that you cant hold your marker still, maybe you should take up something more suitable for yourself...like checkers.

**Tippmann_A5** · August 10th, 04:55 PM

im just saying the recoil if you can call it that when refering to pb guns is far greater than even a 98 custom, but i will delete this thread since I shouldnt sway peoples opinions based on one lemon, and i did send it to PMI when it broke the first time with nothing to do with flush cocking, but with a faulty trigger frame. Turned all the way up it only reached 200. What im saying is it can be pretty discouraging for a new player with their first gun, like the situation i was in to go threw all that, i almost quit pb.

I open the box gas it up, doesnt work have to wait till i can go to the pb park to get proper O-ring

Go to park, chrony only up to 200 fps, have to wait to get a spring kit, play the day at 200 fps

Unknown problem- send it away to PMI, comes back perfect, a month later but free of charge

1 week after got it back - the inside part of the flush cocking rod where the metal piece ataching the bolt and the hammer goes threw is snapped and bent out of shape, when i go to clean it, using it on my 3 time since it came back.

lets put it this way its been getting fixed 1 month and 2 weeks Ive had it 2 months, this gun hasnt treated me well

Now, this can be very discouraging for a newb, this problems seem like nothing when youre an experienced player with a backupgun, but when youre sitting on the sidelines cause youre tired of getting your ass kicked using a ghost watching everyone play for a month well see if the noob stays in the game very long

**crazycupcake** · August 10th, 05:03 PM

yeah... name one gun that has a stock barrel that should not be upgraded... there is no gun like that, except maybe the matrix family... but tahts about it, you want to get either a barrel kit or at least a bigger/better barrel upgrade.

EDIT: just saw the post above, you dont have to wait to go to the paintball field to get a new oring, you get a bag of spare parts, which has both bolt/valve, and hammer orings.
it also has a stiffer spring, which allows you to achieve higher valocity.

**Tippmann_A5** · August 10th, 05:07 PM

tried that spring its a light blue one, its even lighter trust me

**Tippmann_A5** · August 10th, 05:09 PM

it doesnt matter anymore guys, My SRT is gone, im glad ive got a gun that finaly works well, i agree my gun was just bad luck im over it, i wont buy PMI again but i shouldnt try and make their chocie for them, im over it...sorry guys

now that i look back on it the problems werent that big but lets face it to a noob it will, just like me, "OMG,OMG my O-ring is broken im ruined" and this is how other newbs will see it when this happens

***onesikpup*** · August 10th, 05:12 PM

they usually come with a red spring...which is stiffer. sorry bout my rant...but i do understand..i would be pissed too. i have spent a day like that, shooting at 200...its a real drag. ive never figured it out either...worked good after i got home and even better the next time i went, without changing anything. i was trippin.

**crazycupcake** · August 10th, 05:42 PM

thats what you get when you use co2

**SEFishy** · August 10th, 06:03 PM

ehh iv had my ext pro g3 se (long name) for ages now with no problems, dont u hate lemons?

***onesikpup*** · August 10th, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycupcake

thats what you get when you use co2

yeah, i guess im gonna hafta blow my old lady or something, so i can gete her to cooperate peacefully with getting me a good hpa tank.

**crazycupcake** · August 10th, 10:19 PM

yeye, i didnt think HPA made such a big difference when i used co2, but ones i got my tank, it was shooting soooo much better. its awesome. HPA rules all.

***D_Smalls*** · August 11th, 04:40 PM

i was gonna delete this thread.. but im gonna leave it.. cuz every that actaully knows what they are talking about said their opinions, and that will help new players to piranha

theres people like this all over on pbreview.. people that get lemon products or dont know what they are doing and give it a 1 and throw all the ratings off.. and discourage other players from the product.. i would go into great detail analyzing your post, but bunch of people already have and i think theyve gotten the point across..

just because you got a lemon or suck at taking care of a gun gives you no reason to bad name one of the best paintball companies.. your little experience doesnt even put a notch into the MASS amount of other happy and glad buyers..

almost all the people i play with have piranhas very rarely do they have problems, if they do, theres always tons of piranha veterns there to get the player back in the games in no time..

its a shame you had troubles, but dont waste our time again making stupid threads like this

**Tordex** · August 17th, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippmann_A5

1-flush cocking; pinch a ball youve got to degass, uncock, regass, cock
(pinching usually happens instead of chopping with the SRT, so be prepared to do this about once a game)

2-flush cocking piece is flimsy, Ive gone through 2 in the 6-7 games ive used it
I should have used it more but it took a month each for the piece to come in, the ref at our field with this gun has had the same thing happen along with the chronic velocity problems.

3- 9'' Stock barrel is to tight for most paint, stock bore around .683 i think

4-Trigger, whoever designed this should be shot, anyone who has tried my gun hates it, no replacements available

5-cocking rod, slams back into your face, no beavertail

Hmm your stupid!

1. I have the SRT E-force and i havent had one ball "pinch"!

2. You must not clean/maintain your marker cus my flush cocking has never had a problem.

3. WTF who cares about the stock barrel? Eveyone buys a new one no matter witch marker you get. And even if you stay with the stock just find paintballs that fit.

4. I can get 10 bps right now with the stock trigger, yes it sucks but once again you are wrong... there is a after-market trigger! Its called the Boss Blade and its made for the 2k3 & 2k4 frames (try doing some research!).

5. once again WTF!?!? the flush cocking only moves like less then half an inch! And even if you are to retarted and cant hold your face more then 2/3's of an inch away just buy a beavertail!

**Tippmann_A5** · August 17th, 08:43 PM

why did u have to bring back my shameful thread, why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and btw i didnt leave anything on pbreview for that reason, because thats wat scared me away from the A5 which if I would have got would be working perfectly right now.
And I did take care of it, but its only a damn Piranha and I only had it for all of 2-3 weeks even if i didnt oil and clean it it would be fine, theres not much you can do to harm a stacked tube blowback unless you hit it with a hammer