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**tlmiller** · June 18th, 06:57 PM

I can't speak for a PM6, but my pm8 definitely gets those types of numbers. 1500, nearly 1600 off a 68/4500.

**kenny_1491** · June 18th, 07:02 PM

The bolt designs are EXACTLY the same. A pm8 is just a milled pm7 with the new LPR, ul frame stock, and the self cleaning eyes. A PM7 is JUST a milled down pm6. Really and truthfully there are no differences that you can tell when shooting between the M7 and the M6.

**the_real_kaz** · June 18th, 07:04 PM

I'd belive a pm8, they've gotten more efficent over the years, but no way a pm6 is getting it...

Dye has been bosting better and better efficency every year... then again they could be just saying that to sell markers

**kenny_1491** · June 18th, 07:07 PM

Look at my last post. If there were any guns I know, it'd be matrices.

**the_real_kaz** · June 18th, 07:57 PM

... so is a pm5 and a pm6 the same internally?

**kenny_1491** · June 18th, 08:03 PM

They get the same estimated efficiency. But the PM6 runs off a decent amount smaller psi.

**the_real_kaz** · June 18th, 08:18 PM

lol ok now your full of ****. lol. The PM5 that I shot got a little more than 1k off a 68/45.

**kenny_1491** · June 18th, 08:22 PM

I was just reading off the DM/PM comparison chart. Notice I said "estimated". Do I believe that chart? Not really, it says my PMR should get 1300 off a 68/45. It is tuned to perfection and is only getting like 600 at best. You have to remember that all guns are different, even in between the same makes.

andyminQUEST · June 18th, 09:51 PM

bs
maybe if the balls just fell out of the barrel
a well tuned pm6 could only get 1300 tops
maybe you are just counting wrong.
Unless you did some heavy internal modding to trap unused air in the fire chamber you couldn't get that kind of efficiency. BTW i am working on that for the ion.
expect to get 1200 out of 45/45 for the ion im working on.

o will fill in the details if i get it to work

**kenny_1491** · June 18th, 09:55 PM

An Ion can push over a case when optimized correctly. You are the one that needs to get your numbers right.

andyminQUEST · June 18th, 10:03 PM

excuse me
wtf man
i know that i mean to push over 1200
i just assumed you understood what i meant
here let me explain
i am soldering the fire chamber shut so excess air does not escape
by doing this the air stays trapped in the gun and requires less pressure from the tank to operate. By using less pressure from the tank you get better air efficiency, meaning you get more shots. It is a simple idea really but that is beside the point.
If you are interested more i will be posting a new thread in the smart parts section next week if it works.

***Dark.angel*** · June 18th, 10:08 PM

If you
don't talk
like dis
it would be
easier to
understand
you.

andyminQUEST · June 18th, 10:11 PM

wow you are really the #1 douche
so
go
f***
yourself
because
no one
would
ever
have
sex
with
you

im sorry its just habit. I email a lot at work and it is imperative that i start new topics with a new paragraph.

BTW great idea to get more posts. I think i might try to be a spammer when i grow up.

**kenny_1491** · June 18th, 10:11 PM

Damn Dark, I have never agreed with you before.

***Dark.angel*** · June 18th, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyminQUEST

wow you are really the #1 douche
so
go
f***
yourself
because
no one
would
ever
have
sex
with
you

im sorry its just habit. I email a lot at work and it is imperative that i start new topics with a new paragraph.

BTW great idea to get more posts. I think i might try to be a spammer when i grow up.

Edit your post or I'll report you.

andyminQUEST · June 18th, 10:17 PM

of course
lol im just messing with ya. On a side note i need some allies against kenny. I think i might punch that guy.
BTW this is total spam but it is on topic so take that corporate oppressors.

andyminQUEST · June 18th, 10:19 PM

what the heck dark
i do absolutely nothing for you and this is what i get.
Well
maybe
i
dont
like
you
very
much
so
go
ahead
and
report
my
ass
for
future
reference
if
i
get banned i will change my name to something extremely similar so sionara.

***Dark.angel*** · June 18th, 10:29 PM

I think you almost fail as hard as this kid named andyminION.

But my friends PMR gets a hopper and two pods off a 45/45. It is pretty horrible.

**kenny_1491** · June 18th, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyminQUEST

of course
lol im just messing with ya. On a side note i need some allies against kenny. I think i might punch that guy.
BTW this is total spam but it is on topic so take that corporate oppressors.

Exactly, you need somebody to have your back before you stand up to somebody. You already lose, goodbye, sionara(SP?), and good day.

andyminQUEST · June 18th, 10:34 PM

lol too bad thats my brother
hahaha
you suck man
and another thing, dont ever ask me for anything. Our nonexistant friendship is over dark. BTW where did you come from. You weren't even talking in this thread untill i spaced out my post. Just to make fun of me. You tell me whos the better person.