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**MrMacDude** · March 5th, 06:32 PM

And...?

**Dudeus** · March 5th, 07:16 PM

bushy > ion

**MrMacDude** · March 5th, 07:25 PM

Is it possible you are even a little bit biased, what with owning a bushy and all?

Not to say you are wrong, but do you have any reasons why?

**Dudeus** · March 5th, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMacDude

Is it possible you are even a little bit biased, what with owning a bushy and all?

how dare you accuse me of such a thing

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Originally Posted by MrMacDude

Not to say you are wrong, but do you have any reasons why?

no its just a better gun IMO. proven design. not a 1st gen. wont have problems. better reg, better trigger, better looks/milling

all IMO

**MrMacDude** · March 5th, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dudeus000

how dare you accuse me of such a thing

well, i think its a fact that you own a bushy

**kant_think** · March 5th, 07:57 PM

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**MrMacDude** · March 5th, 07:58 PM

W
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***Barber*** · March 5th, 08:18 PM

Wait until the B2K5 is out. It's gonna be the best gun for under 600.

If you don't wanna wait, get the B2K4. I don't trust the Ion yet. I have yet to see a Smart Parts product go without some problems. The shocker needed a year to get the bugs out.

jtpaintballer31 · March 5th, 09:06 PM

the b2k4/pds all the way they are selling for $319 now there is no comparison for that price now. better reg,better trigger, better milling and i also hear that the ions are very heavy for such a small gun. and not very many people have a ion so if you ask for help here you prbably want get an answer. ALL THIS IS IMO!

**chromekilla** · March 5th, 09:11 PM

yeah, i would definatly wait for the B2K5, its going to be hott

but if your dead set on geting the 04 bushy vs and ion, i would personally go ion. i like the feel of a single tube design rather than a larger gun like the bushy. and seeig as how you have owned mags, its not going to feel all that different for ya. Except for the being alot better than a mag thing.

**Dudeus** · March 5th, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jtpaintballer31

the b2k4/pds all the way they are selling for $319 now there is no comparison for that price now. better reg,better trigger, better milling and i also hear that the ions are very heavy for such a small gun. and not very many people have a ion so if you ask for help here you prbably want get an answer. ALL THIS IS IMO!

are you mocking me? i couldnt tell cuz you said practically the same thing i just said up there^^^

**kant_think** · March 5th, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMacDude

Is it possible you are even a little bit biased, what with owning a bushy and all?

Not to say you are wrong, but do you have any reasons why?

All around nice gun, and comes with a ramping board.

jtpaintballer31 · March 5th, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dudeus000

are you mocking me? i couldnt tell cuz you said practically the same thing i just said up there^^^

its just another person to convince the buyer dont get pissy cuz i think the same things

**Dudeus** · March 5th, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jtpaintballer31

its just another person to convince the buyer dont get pissy cuz i think the same things

im just wondering cuz you said trigger, reg, and milling and thats exactly wut i said and you said all this is IMO. and i said that at the end of mine too. jw cuz if not that is a weird coincidence

**wackwar** · March 5th, 10:43 PM

well ive heard its like impossible to clean the ions bolt without difficulty so if u chop u are screwed.i would go b2k from experince.

**kant_think** · March 5th, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wackwar

well ive heard its like impossible to clean the ions bolt without difficulty so if u chop u are screwed.i would go b2k from experince.

Your not gonna chop much with break-beam eyes.

**L1nUx_r0ot** · March 6th, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kant_think

Your not gonna chop much with break-beam eyes.

news flash! b2k4 has PDS, which is a breakbeam eye system that's proven to be one of the best eye systems out there.

I say b2k4 hands down, especially with this price drop.

**wackwar** · March 6th, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kant_think

Your not gonna chop much with break-beam eyes.

that doesnt mean its never gonna chop. even if the b2k has a break all you have to do is pull the bolt out and squeegie it.

**MrMacDude** · March 6th, 08:43 AM

is the b2k4 spring returned?

**chromekilla** · March 6th, 12:41 PM

no, thats the BKO your thinking of

B2k4/5's are true electropnumatic guns