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**Dudeus** · March 7th, 05:57 PM

ok 05 speed (stock), dm3 w/ musachi (sp?) and a whole buncha other upps, dm4 (stock), or a cyborg (stock).

i am buying upps for my guns up until summer then i am gonna save for one of these guns and a bigger/lighter tank

i kno this has been asked before but not this exactly. i have shot all of these guns besides the borg (no one in oklahoma has it) and i love all of them. please help

**worr5152** · March 7th, 06:03 PM

05 speed hands down buddy

***freddieb321@hot*** · March 7th, 06:19 PM

wowowowow no way. go with the dm4. i have a dm5 and its great. dm4s are not much different. they are so friggin accurate. and if u are worried about speed, honestly ur not gonna be walking it at 23 bps. people who say that they can are just bs ing. take any number that people say they can walk it, subtract like 7 and there you go. but if u really think that you can go fast get a musashi 3 chip, there great, screw those angel speeds, get the best man

**bobide** · March 7th, 06:22 PM

the 05 speed has the "trigger of god" as i like to call it. I wish someone would let me shot one...

all are great, and u don't hate 90*s do u? Try to eleminate the dm3 or dm4. Then it's a fricking tie between the speed and borg. Both are damn good.

if the dm3 isn't fully upped then get the borg or speed b/c those need no ups to rock.

***freddieb321@hot*** · March 7th, 06:35 PM

dude no way, dm4 is like the 4th best gun out the behiind dm5 proto and a gun i really personally like-the matrix

**Dudeus** · March 7th, 08:46 PM

i dont like protos, but i like the dm3 and the dm4

to bobide the dm3 would be like completely upped....as in: stiffi kit, aka 2liter, musachi 3, rail, snatch, trigger, internals (if needed, i have no idea), and anything else i could think of

***-PBV*** · March 7th, 08:51 PM

Well, the '05 Speed or dm4 would be a good choice, but depending on the price of the dm3 that could change.

Not familiar with cyborgs so can't help ya there.

**bobide** · March 7th, 09:26 PM

what about a used viking? theres a 03 viking w/ pretty much everything for sale here/ on nation for $725, he hasn't had much luck yet.

***freddieb321@hot*** · March 7th, 09:27 PM

can you put a musashi 3 chip in a dm4 , i thought that they were only for dm5s

**Dudeus** · March 7th, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobide

what about a used viking? theres a 03 viking w/ pretty much everything for sale here/ on nation for $725, he hasn't had much luck yet.

seen that. it is now my background

through the vike in the mix also. never shot one. no one has one around. they shoot nice?

**bobide** · March 7th, 09:40 PM

i wouldn't know. Nobody at my field ever has any good guns. Best was a dark ir3 angel i think. I really need to go to the other fields. Or maybe not, now that we finally have a speedball course.

from what i've heard, vikings have 0 kick. And it runs even better ever time u shot it. The thing keeps breaking in and getting more efficent. LIFETIME warrenty also1!!

***Ruzhyo3000*** · March 8th, 05:33 PM

Vikings shoot very nice. They are extremely consistent and efficient and built very durable. If you don't mind the lack of milling or somewhat bulkyness it would be an awsome choice.

I would consider the proto though (I know you said you don't like it). They are cheaper than DM4s and perform almost exactly the same. The Proto is a little more efficient than the DM5/4 because of it's higher operating pressure. It weighs less too. I would get one from the matrix center w/ Musashi 3 programming for only $975.

Or you could go with the Ego like I am

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**gamefaceowner3** · March 8th, 06:50 PM

Speed they are crazy fast.

***freddieb321@hot*** · March 8th, 10:39 PM

um no still go with the dm4 or proto

***Ruzhyo3000*** · March 8th, 10:43 PM

or ego.

***freddieb321@hot*** · March 8th, 10:50 PM

nope, doesnt even compare

***Ruzhyo3000*** · March 8th, 10:55 PM

I am interested in seeing how you came to such a blatantly false conclusion

. I would agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that the Ego is just as fast, more effiecient, more reliable, lighter, and cheaper than the DM5. But all these are so, so please explain yourself.

**bobide** · March 8th, 10:56 PM

ignore freddie, he couldn't get a maxflo to work on a dm5.

well dudeous, seems we've only added guns to ur list.

**n00bshooter** · March 9th, 06:00 AM

borg or vike, hands down the best on your list. fast, efficent, looks good (borg only), light, and you'll be unique at your field.

**Dudeus** · March 9th, 11:54 PM

i think im gonna go for the dm3 with hella upps. thanks for the help yall tho