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***Polska44*** · March 19th, 11:53 AM

i checked out alot reviews and the new imagine seems better then the ion and they say that ion is hard to take apart

***xPiZZeRx*** · March 19th, 12:50 PM

Wrong forum. And you can put those pics in your sig you know. Goto your User CP, then Edit Signature.

I'd still get the Ion.

**gamefaceowner3** · March 19th, 01:09 PM

Wrong forum but i would still go with the ion

**Lordgunner** · March 19th, 02:50 PM

WHAT? Imagine better than the Ion? Umm, not sure what reviews you were reading, but the Imagine isn't close to the Ion. Taking apart the Ion is pretty easy.

**PaintBallBob** · March 19th, 03:04 PM

why the random pictures.
anyway, the ion is much better and not that hard to take apart if you read the manual.

**100%Wooddog** · March 19th, 03:08 PM

ion, no contest

**lbreevesii** · March 19th, 03:40 PM

i still want to know where our polish friend got that crazy idea in his head.

heres the run down...

spyder: mechanicly capable of 20ish bps(assuming no drop off, which there would be), can you hit that speed? NO. eyes? not without upgrades. weight? comparatively a good bit. fully electropnumatic? no. its a stinkin blowback.

ion: fully electropnumatic, eyes, you actually can hit 17 bps with it stock, interchangable bodies, weighs near nothing.

ION> any stacked tube pos.

ShZio · March 20th, 06:02 AM

The reviews u read were probably from pbreview, there a bunch of noobs

**trix0566** · March 20th, 10:27 AM

ION
nuff said

PaintNSkate · March 21st, 11:24 PM

i have a spyder and i still say the ion..

**pbpro115** · March 21st, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbreevesii

i still want to know where our polish friend got that crazy idea in his head.

heres the run down...

spyder: mechanicly capable of 20ish bps(assuming no drop off, which there would be), can you hit that speed? NO. eyes? not without upgrades. weight? comparatively a good bit. fully electropnumatic? no. its a stinkin blowback.

ion: fully electropnumatic, eyes, you actually can hit 17 bps with it stock, interchangable bodies, weighs near nothing.

ION> any stacked tube pos.

its actually closer to the 40s....yeah, spyders are one of the Fastest guns on the market (essentially, but their still a POS)

**paintthecatBLUE** · March 21st, 11:37 PM

yeah, but speed like that means nothing because you will chop EVERY SINGLE BALL no matter what loader you are using

this isnt even a comparison. Ion, duh!

***xPiZZeRx*** · March 21st, 11:50 PM

Spyder's CPS rate = 40cps. +

cps. means nothing though. It's just shooting air. When you're shooting paint, there are certain things going on in the firing process that make it slower. So a Spyder/blowback is only capable of shooting around 20bps.

**lbreevesii** · March 22nd, 07:41 AM

^ thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbpro115

its actually closer to the 40s....yeah, spyders are one of the Fastest guns on the market (essentially, but their still a POS)

yea when i said 20 i was referring to potential bps speeds rather than cps, and even at 20 hopein for no insaine shootdown...

**Snip3r** · March 22nd, 07:45 AM

Spyders are indeed one of the fastest cycling guns on the market, but the blowback and such kills them. I have seen spyders with timmy internals rip 27bps (Lance Rogers of GZ...alias interns...Ill see if I can get a vid) but hes got almost 1200 in that spyder.

The Ion hands down rapes a spyder around your back yard...and this is coming from the owner of a t-boarded 04 Imagine.

PaintNSkate · March 22nd, 11:30 AM

i have a spyder e99 and i can go full auto without breakin... all i have is an empire reloader

***xPiZZeRx*** · March 22nd, 01:51 PM

Ya, 12bps. That's no problem, but try it with a board that can do 20+.

**Mangobutter** · March 22nd, 03:51 PM

i agree i hate smart parts but ion is still better

***worr20*** · March 22nd, 04:57 PM

ion all the way

***DrakenPaint*** · March 22nd, 06:29 PM

Ion is way better.