spyderman6735

i am getting readyto buy a spyder pilot acs but one of my friends says a spyder fenix acs is better. i was wondering which one i should get

Snip3r

Id rather have a t-board imagine...

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Sc-Paintballer

there awesome. Get a pilot so u have money left to buy a rocking trigger. Up to 30 bps

Snip3r

Dont get the rockiong trigger...T-board it if anything...rocking trigger=noob gheyness

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Spyder-Junkie

The Rocking Trigger is fine thank you very much, and I can get just as fast as rate of fires as you can. And I could get those speeds on my regular double trigger as well. I prefer the Rocking trigger because I think it is a great upgrade. It's not "gheyness" if you have a good reason for having it.

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Ugly Bassist

the rocking trigger sucks.. i dont need an explaination because theres plenty out there

buy a real trigger

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Schroeder

If there's plenty of explanations out there than you should've been able to name one off the top of your head in a split second. The rocking trigger is a genious idea, if you get used to it it is pretty much just like a normal trigger. I'd like to see someone who can get 18 bps, thanks to the two contact points they could pry' get into the mid 20's. I'd say you're just one of "the paintball nuts" who went overboard and don't take it as a sport any more but something much more serious, so serious it's not as fun anymore. In your eyes, a new evolved trigger, like the rocking one is "unethical to paintball". ahahah..So yes, get the pilot and then a rocking trigger, I've seen 'em in action and if you get used to 'em they're awesome.

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spyderman6735

ok well i decided i am going to get the pilot and i might get the rocking trigger if i have enough money. How much does the price range run on them.

Sc-Paintballer

the rocking trigger?? around like...at my store about 160.00...The Pilot should be about 170.00...

PaintBallBob

you cant even use the rocking trigger(unless you use only one contact point which is stupid and slows you down) in a tournament and its is 3 times the cost of a t-board which is much better(it has eyes). The ACS bolt is useless and is a half-ass anti-chopping solution. Save some money and get a plain spyder imagine with a t-board and a fast hopper.

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Spyder-Junkie

Im not going to get into a flame war, but I have both the Rocking trigger and the ACS Boilt and They are both awesome. I have had them both for almost a month and a half and I have yet to have a single chop... And I don' consider CHOPS breaks oin the barrel because thats not what a chop is. I consider a chop when a ball breaks in the gun.

By the way, my Rocking Trigger only costed my $130 on ebay. Thats the way to go if you want one, I got mine brand new.

Get the rocking trigger, It's well worth it spyderman6735. I have one and i love it, trust me, you WON'T be disappointed, and if worst came to worst, you'd always have your old trigger frame as a backup.

By the way, me and Schroeder go paintballing together all the time and he criticisizes me for having the Spyder, but even he admits that it is a good upgrade, because It truly is. It helps you shoot faster, and if thats what you want to do...Buy it.

EDIT: PLUS, if you get the t-board and eyes, you have to drill out a hole for the eye to fit into on the gun. I don't know about you but I wouldn't take the chances of screwing up my gun with a drill...

And by the way, AWESOME PILOT SC_Paintballer

Junkie

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Matrix Owner #23

toXic

i would get the fenix for one real good reason.... Its Vertical feed. On the pilot you have to use the plastic adapters which break every 15 minutes lol. But i would just get the t-board instead of the rocking trigger. yea the rock is nice, but maybe just a little over kill dont ya think? tourneys are set to 15, so no reason to be able to shoot 30. With the money you save gettign the t-board you could buy a hp tank, and possibly a new barrel.

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counterstrike53

if you do get the rocking trigger make sure to get a real fast hopper

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PaintBallBob

thats because of you have really slow fingers or because you have a good hopper, not because of any crappy anti-chop bolt.

thats why there are these shops called proshops...theyll install it for you and even with that cost it will be less then half the price of the rocking trigger which is inferior for reasons allready stated.


at least you made one correct statement, because nobody refers to barrel breaks as chops.

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Spyder-Junkie

Umm, no I don't have slow fingers, as a matter of fact, I can get up to 11 bps, and I don't really think thats slow. If you do, then you must only practice firing day in and day out, because I consider 11 bps an accopmlishment for someone who has only been in paintball for 2 years. And I can get that with a regular trigger too, so don't bring up that it's justr because of the Rocking Trigger. The Trigger helps, yes, but I can get the same speed with a normal trigger. And yeah I have a Halo B, but that doesn't mean that chops will never happen. And the anti-chop bolt isn't crappy, It's a well thought through design that actually works. Have you looked into it, or just assuming that it doesn't because a few people have said it's a Kingman product and It sucks. The Bolt does stop chops whether you want to admit it or not.


And for people who don't have the money to go and spend $20 at a proshop for them to drill one little hole in your gun? What for them, they basically are either screwed, or have to take the chance of doing it themselves. Which can lead to damage to the gun as previously stated.

Wrong. The t-board costs anywhere from $65-75, and after ordering it from a site, with shipping it'll cost near $90. Even if you buy one from your proshop, it's still not a 3rd of the price of a rocking trigger, because I said earlier that I got mine for $130. Since when does $75 = 1/3 of $130?

All in all, spyderman6735, go with the Rocking trigger and the anti-chop bolt. You aren't going to be disappointed. Take my word for it. I have explained, above and beyond what the average person will say about these upgrades. I hope it helps you to make your decision, no matter which spyder you get, the Pilot, or the Fenix.

-Junkie

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wait a second........if the ACS pilot is capped at 20bps, and the rocking trigger is just a 30 something cap, but comes w/ no perks like the 36bps capped t-board (eyes are the perk, that and the mode chips).......then why the **** would u get the rocking?

Spyder-Junkie, if ur using a halo u should not be chopping. (and 11bps is so damn slow that well....it's hella slow. Most ppl can do 15bps, can just wait till u HEAR the difference. It's also impossible to run through a 15bps stream, and i was able to shoot 13bps inside of a week w/ my gun) Also, the newest ACS bolt apparently does it's job well. Kingman owners didn't like it b/c the earlier models had fit issues and also didn't stop some chops, so it's not just the auto-response of kingman sucks.

Me, if i was stuck between the 2 ACS models, i'd get the pilot its cheaper, and w/ the money i saved i'd get a ccm feedneck.

and finally, why are u recommending the ACS bolt to this guy??? He's buying the ACS pilot or fenix, it comes w/ the damn bolt man.

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Spyder-Junkie

I was tellign him to get it because PaintballBob was tleling him the ACS bolt was usless and didn't work. So I thought it might talk spyderman out of getting the ACS version, but really it does work.

I wasn't saying that I got chops with my gun. I said I didn'ts get any chops, trying to prove my point that the rocking trigger doesn't cause chops by shooting fast.

I know that people can shoot faster than 11 bps but I consider it fast for myself. I don't practice all the time, ut I wasn't braggin though either, sorry if it came off that way.

Either way. I think that the Rocking trigger is a good upgrade. It's my opinion but I think it has all good things about it, besides the fact that it is $50 more. I like the trigger and don't regret getting it. I don't think spyderman will either.

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PaintBallBob

yeah you dont really need the bolt if your only shooting 11bps and you have a halo B...hell you wouldnt need the bolt using a revvy. I have no doubt that the ACS bolt works. It just doesnt work as well as eyes and is overpriced. You say i get my info from other people. I find it hard to imagine that the bolt has saved you from chops when you only shoot 11bps.

as i allready made a point of saying even with shipping(which is much cheaper then what you say) and installation the t-board with eyes will be much cheaper then the rocking trigger alone, not even mentioning the purchase of the ACS bolt.

okay lets try to think of this logically. when i posted that the t-board w/ eyes is 1/3 the price of the rocking trigger the prices being discused were from regular stores not from auction sites. And those prices were around 180. 180/3=60 which is the price ive seen many times for t-boards.

i simply dont see how you can argue that an ACS system is better then eyes. I might agree if the ACS system was significantly less but considering that a t-board with eyes is still way less then an ACS system and rocking trigger i dont see your logic.

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