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Old August 24th, 09:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Knew this would happen

When I first got my Imagine I said "This will last me a few years",well I lied. I like it but, I want something more. I was looking at the Diablo Wrath,and WGP 05 Prostock. I know they are completely different guns but will who has either of them say what you like/don't like about it?

Also,I will be playing a little bit of Speedball,but mostly Wood's/Scenario.
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Old August 24th, 10:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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things i like about the wrath:
good looking
electro-pnewmatic function
eyes
fast

things i like about the prostock:
it looks kinda like a lasoya

things i dont like about the wrath:
needs hpa

things i dont like about the prostock:
its a cocker. dont buy it



get the wrath. bottom line
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Old August 25th, 03:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I will probably get the Wrath. Can it run on N2,and CO2?
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Old August 25th, 03:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I will probably get the Wrath. Can it run on N2,and CO2?
No... You need hpa.

Dudeus put it straight. Cockers = teh suxorz.
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I know this is a dumb question but what is the difference between HPA,and N2 and CO2? And how much would it usually cost?
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Old August 25th, 04:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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hpa and n2 are the same thing. We just use the terms interchangably. A really small sucky heavy nitrogen tank is like $50-$70. That's for a 45/3000 steel tank. STEEL, as in HELLA HEAVY. A carbon fiber shell tank is like $160 for a low end brand and up to $220. w/ sizes going from 45-88. I recommend going for a 4500 (holds more!) if u get a fiber tank.

U can always try to buy used. Maybe look for a local used tank so u can make sure it's legit.
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Old August 25th, 04:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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HPA stands for high pressure air. N2 is nitrogen but when people say nitro/n2 they usaully just mean HPA because nitrogen was its predecessor. Both HPA and nitrogen are high-end gasses and most HPA tanks/guns can use nitrogen as well. But it doesn't really matter because nitrogen is very rare since HPA is easier/cheaper for a field owner.

CO2 is what most players use. It has more impurities then air. since co2 can be stored in its liquid form in the tank more easily it hurts o-rings. This means co2 can not be used on higher end guns with lots of o-rings(electro-pnuematic guns). However, if you get your co2 tank anti-siphoned it will work better on one of these guns. However, since you can get a used steel HPA tank for around $30 or a new one for $60 this would probably be a much better option then getting your tank anti-siphoned (since the co2 tank is $20 and an anti-siphoned set up is another $20)

In terms of how much a HPA tank costs it ranges from $60 to $300+
Steel tanks range from $60 to $80 depending on size and brand. Most are 48 cubic inches and all can hold capacities up to 3000psi. Fiber wrapped tanks are lighter and can hold higher pressures. They also come is more sizes and shapes. The only ones i would recomend is a 45 cubic inch or a 68 cubic inch. a 30/68(3000 psi, 68 cubic inch) tank would be around $180. A 45/45 or 68/45 would be around $200. Some fiber-wrapped tanks have low-pressure outputs. Do not buy one. These are only for guns with poor quality in line regulators(like BKOs or various angels). Wraths should be fine with a high output pressure tank. Adjustable tanks vary in price but i would not suggest one since a preset one is fine/better and much less expensive.

Brands i would recomend are:
Pure energy, Crossfire, and Macdev.

edit: dont but dirrectly from macdev because they are located in australia.

edit2: to answer the original question: as long as you dont want some tac-sim type of marker get the wrath as its performance is better then the cockers in pretty much every possible way.
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Old August 26th, 09:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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actually the wrath can run on co2 as long as it is a/s.

well actually it can run on normal it will just freeze the reg.

obviously hpa is better for the marker but it will run on co2.
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Thank you guy's for all the help,are there anymore good marker's for under $350.00?
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ion (ewww), b2k w/pds, bko. or save $20 and buy a promaster
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Old August 28th, 04:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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ion (ewww), b2k w/pds, bko. or save $20 and buy a promaster
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Old August 30th, 09:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm actually thinking about the Evil Omen 2.0,would someone who owns one say what you like,and don't like about it?
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my good friend has an Omen and it is a boulder, heavy!!!!!!!! umm id go with a ION



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Old September 1st, 05:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
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