bmth0719

hye guys im looking for a new gun i mostly play airball but every now and then ill mess around in the woods i want to know what i should get invert mini or the proto rail

bmth0719

also what about the fusion come on guys i need help lol

kenny_1491

All depend on preference, if you like a small, innovative Poppet valve get a mini, if you like a fast FASOR(Forward Air Spring Operated Return, basically air pushes bolt forward spring returns it to the rest position) then get a Fusion, if you like a quiet and accurate spooler get a PMR.

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bmth0719

i just want somthing fast light and relieable i used to play with a shocker but its been like 3 years or so since and all these new guns came out so yea if it were you

bballryand316

I didn't like any of my 3 PMR's that much.

I wouldn't say it is 'Quiet' or that it is accurate. Accuracy is, for the most part, the same for all guns.

bmth0719

can i ask why you didnt like your pmr's

kenny_1491

Heck as of 5 min. ago I've got one in the mail, I have shot a thousand of them and liked them all. The stock barrel is iffy on the loudness, but as far as it's accuracy it is rpetty darn good especially for a stock barrel.

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the_real_kaz

I'd go mini. I've never liked the PMR.

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thetopher125

i have a pmr and my friend has a mini we both paid same price for guns and i got a ul frame on mine and he got a new barrel, bolt and ya we both switch every once an a while and i like the pmr and so does he he has a lighter tank then me and the same hopper plus his barrel is a ul and when everything is together we both can not feel the diffrence in waight at all really like maybe 1 once more or something and my pmr is more accurate with the stock barrel we both Say PMR get the ul frame to man Or the SE

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TWO BEAST IONS 100% UP'D BOTH OF THEM A 2-4-1

tlmiller

I've got both the PMR and the Mini. I prefer the mini overall, but either one is a nice gun.

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kenny_1491

I have both as well, and they both perform very similarly, with the mini being more efficient(but it might be uncomfortable for you to hold given it's size, I have no problem with it though) but honestly my PMR does not lack on efficiency, with about 6-7 pods offa 68/45(amazing for a pmr, I honestly think ti was the tophat mod that I did).

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invertminidude

The Mini is more efficient, reliable, light, smaller, better feed neck, better back cap, better trigger, more comfortable, easier to maintain and field strip, does not come with those crap plastic parts, same accuracy as the pmr, smoother.
The PMR has more upgrades to get because it comes crapy.

Shiner74

InvertMiniDude: Geez your as bad as an Ion fan boy. Bmth, I said this to someone on a similar thread but, if you can try to shoot or it least hold both of them and see which one you feel more comfortable with. I've got a pmr and love it but, unlike invertminidude I'm not a crazy fanatic for the type of gun I use. Their both great guns, not to say that it is but even if the invert would be the better gun the pmr certainly is not "crappy". Oh and my personal opinion is that invert mini dude doesn't even on one.

invertminidude

The PMR is a good gun. I am just saying the Mini basically beats it in almost all categories. I actually shot both. I own the Mini because after shooting both I decided I liked the Mini more. Personal preference. DONT BE A HATER. Actually I would have a Luxe over a Mini any day. Actually I would have a lot of guns over a Mini, but the Mini was the best thing I could afford considering I am only 15.

Db0ne

I hope the luxe is better its 1.3k more.

Shiner74

You call it preference but then you call one gun crappy and this is the second thread I've seen you bashing it. I'm certainly not hating on the mini, I've got no room too as I've only held one. Also, never said one thing bad about it, heck I would like to own one. Sense you've only once shot a pmr that doesn't give you the right to say its superior in every way. Just look at the guys who own them both have to say.

JeSTeR_1269

I own both. both shoot about the same. about the same consistency. Though, I find myself reaching for the PMR more, but thats me.

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Ruforizzle

ok so nobody shoot what i have to say down or anything just because i don't own either, but id go towards the pmr just cuz dye has been making guns a lot longer than empire and its empire's first gun, the pmr might be more reliable, not saying the the mini isnt. i also think the pmr is more of a classic gun.

invertminidude

What if u don't want a classic gun though

Db0ne

If the mini was just that much better why dont people all use it instead of the pmr? Theres things that people like more than others.