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diskidgotsol3 · May 9th, 08:30 PM

IM a beginner and i want to buy my first gun..i either want a vibe or a diablo wrath... which one u should suggest..i mostly play speedball but im started to like playing woodsball and...and is there any gun that is good for both??

TheAznInvazn · May 9th, 08:56 PM

I'd get the vibe, it's much easier to maintain, and it's fully electropneumatic

diskidgotsol3 · May 9th, 09:12 PM

oook.. do you got any websites that i could get a vibe for a good prize.. and which one is better for the vibe co2 or HPA

TheAznInvazn · May 9th, 09:14 PM

HPA will always be better, but the Vibe can take both.

Try the SmartParts website or ActionVillage, or even a local Pro-Shop.

**tlmiller** · May 9th, 09:19 PM

I'd take a Vibe because they're still made, and you can get support for them under warranty. But in terms of comparing the actual guns, they're BOTH fully electropneumatic. And IMO, Eyes > low pressure bolt.

diskidgotsol3 · May 9th, 09:21 PM

ooook yea because i was looking at a website call "firstcallpaintball.com" and they had the vibe with a hopper and a co2 tank for 179

TheAznInvazn · May 9th, 09:24 PM

I thought the Diablo was a STBB?

In any case, still being in production is a big plus, and they're comming out with a board that has eyes and all the goodies.

Check around for individual prices on the Vibe, a similer CO2 tank, and hopper, and see if you're really getting a deal, or just getting scammed

diskidgotsol3 · May 9th, 09:31 PM

oooo i might just buy the gun by it self from smart parts and just buy the hopper and co2 tank seperate

diskidgotsol3 · May 9th, 09:34 PM

but wat a good hopper adn co2 tank for a cheap price because im kinda in a budget...

TheAznInvazn · May 9th, 09:46 PM

VL Eye-Force for a great hopper, and any CO2 tank from walmart or whatever will do fine

diskidgotsol3 · May 9th, 09:55 PM

ok in action village they have a vibe and a tank for 179.99

can u tell me if it a good deal
here the link

Smart Parts Vibe Starter A Paintball Gun Kit - Black at ActionVillage.com : Paintball

**tlmiller** · May 9th, 10:10 PM

Wrath is a FASOR design. Similar to the Dangerous Power Fusion, Infinity Legend, Odyssey O2, O3e, O3x, ICD BKO, Dragun T1, etc. etc. etc.
VL Eye-Force is indeed an INCREDIBLE hopper for the price. It's ugly, but fast and reliable, with a very strong shell actually.

Yes, that's a good starter kit, ecspecially if you eventually want to get a better gun, since it comes with compressed air tank instead of co2

TheAznInvazn · May 9th, 10:12 PM

Woah... didn't know that they were based off of the FASOR design...

Meh, Spool valve is simpler

especially the Vibe's valve

diskidgotsol3 · May 10th, 08:43 AM

is there any upgrades i should do to a vibe

TheAznInvazn · May 10th, 07:17 PM

Well firstly, get a good hopper, Halo, VLocity, Torque, Reloader B/B2, etc.

The L7v2 bolt from TechT Paintball is amazing, but it isn't needed.

The Hopper should be enough for now.

**tlmiller** · May 10th, 08:54 PM

Since you're looking at inexpensive guns, look at the EyeForce loader. $60, holds 200, has the Vlocity Impeller and eye system, just not the Vlocity board. It's ugly, but it works really well, and can't be touched for the price.

diskidgotsol3 · May 11th, 09:20 AM

oo alrihgt so just get a good hopper and a co2 tank and ill be good to go

**the_real_kaz** · May 11th, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAznInvazn

Woah... didn't know that they were based off of the FASOR design...

Yea, for some reason people think it's a spyder clone... I don't know why it dosn't look like a spyder at all.

diskidgotsol3 · May 11th, 04:16 PM

diablo doesnt look nothin like a spyder