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Lt Latency · June 14th, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Trbo323

LT- the flatline and apex are both gimmik barrels, neither will give you any additional useable range, they make the paint go further but at the "added" range the paint is traveling too slowly to break on anything

ndpaintballer-what didnt you like about the sp1?

I will admit I don't know everything about barrels. You won't be sniping head shots from 175 yards with a flatline. But you can bunker people and put pressure on areas of the field without people being able to shoot back.

The barrel also give you and extra 25 yards to your kill zone. By that i mean the distance you are sure your will hit your target. Shots go straighter for longer and are much more consistant. It's also nice to not have to arc your balls at all. They travel in a straight line so you just point and shoot. You don't need to think about ball drop.

The biggest problem is you need to use good paint. Cheap paint will get you breaks and a break cripples this barrel. So you need to keep that in mind. This can be a large problem if your field uses crappy paint. You also need to have a field large enough to make use of the extra range.

I play up front and like to get in close so i don't know alot about back. But when i use my friends gun with the flat line i'm shocked at how much farther and straighter i shoot.

If you know of barrels that can improve performce better than this i would love to hear of them so i can get one :P

**Trbo323** · June 14th, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lt Latency

I will admit I don't know everything about barrels. You won't be sniping head shots from 175 yards with a flatline. But you can bunker people and put pressure on areas of the field without people being able to shoot back.

The barrel also give you and extra 25 yards to your kill zone. By that i mean the distance you are sure your will hit your target. Shots go straighter for longer and are much more consistant. It's also nice to not have to arc your balls at all. They travel in a straight line so you just point and shoot. You don't need to think about ball drop.

The biggest problem is you need to use good paint. Cheap paint will get you breaks and a break cripples the gun. So you need to keep that in mind.

I play up front and like to get in close so i don't know alot about back. But when i use my friends gun with the flat line i'm shocked at how much farther and straighter i shoot.

gosh i get tired of this conversation sometimes, as i said above, the flatline, does not add any aditional usable range....your kill zone is not extended if the paint bounces. argue it all you want, physics say "no" so your basically trying to argue against physics. yes the shots are in a straight line but that is not always an advantage, sometimes you need to arc shots over obsticals or down into bunkers where a straight shot will not help, sometimes the oposite is true. you can bunker people reguardless of the barrel you have, and if you can not get breaks on people then people are able to shoot back. it does not have very good accuracy since there is backspin on the paint it is known as "floating" as for the paint to use with it, well something with a thick shell which is gennerally the cheap to mid level stuff, if you shoot higher quality tourny paint that has a thin shell it will blow up in the barrel since it has to go through that S

Lt Latency · June 23rd, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trbo323

gosh i get tired of this conversation sometimes, as i said above, the flatline, does not add any aditional usable range....your kill zone is not extended if the paint bounces. argue it all you want, physics say "no" so your basically trying to argue against physics. yes the shots are in a straight line but that is not always an advantage, sometimes you need to arc shots over obsticals or down into bunkers where a straight shot will not help, sometimes the oposite is true. you can bunker people reguardless of the barrel you have, and if you can not get breaks on people then people are able to shoot back. it does not have very good accuracy since there is backspin on the paint it is known as "floating" as for the paint to use with it, well something with a thick shell which is gennerally the cheap to mid level stuff, if you shoot higher quality tourny paint that has a thin shell it will blow up in the barrel since it has to go through that S

I'm just going off what i have actually seen. My Brother and I both just bought brand new A5s. He has the flat-line i don't. We have taken them into a field a few times and take turns shooting each other with them. I will fire mine at him, Then pick his up and fire at him again to compare. We are using paint form the same case. Everyone that has done this agrees my brothers gun is shooting straighter for longer. My balls start hooking and slicing well before his does.

If i back him up so I am hitting him around 4 out 5 shots. Then pick my gun up I'm lucky to hit him once because my balls are going all over the place at that point.

When have done it a few times now and evertime we get more hits from farther with his gun. Thats what I'm baseing this off.

Maybe we will try switching the barrel onto my gun next time to see if it the guns that are making the difference.

You are correct that you need to use a harder shell paint. It is picky with the paint it needs and breaks cripple the gun and you can't hit anything after a barrel break

**Trbo323** · June 23rd, 12:43 PM

your using the stock barrel thats your problem, its a large bore aluminum tube and IMO someone with the right tools can make a better barrel in their garage. go get a J&J ceramic (12"-16") for $30, it will be much better than the flatline, lighter, more accurate, and will shoot through breaks

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