Hey I was wondering which everyone thinks is better...The BT-4 ERC with the rip clip or the Tippmann A-5 with the E-grip. The only difference I can find is the BT is cheaper. Please don't turn this into a Tippmann love/hate fest. I want honest opinions backed up. Thanks!
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not like a love/hate thing but you are just compairing two blowbacks, and in my opinion you can do whatever you want to to them but at the end of the day its still a blowback
if your looking for a new marker i suggest getting something that is not a blowback
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not like a love/hate thing but you are just compairing two blowbacks, and in my opinion you can do whatever you want to to them but at the end of the day its still a blowback
if your looking for a new marker i suggest getting something that is not a blowback
I realize that...I play more woodsball than speedball and I don't need a really expensive marker...
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He means you're going to get better performance out of non blowbacks. It can be used for woodsball and speedball, no difference xept setting.
But if your not 100% bent on getting the two listed may I suggest a spyder electra 08 for cheaper than those? Everything is better, runs co2 and I promise they wont break on you unless you play during a flood.
But out of those two I def get the BT. But they're basically the same, xept BT is going to give you a nicer board.
He means you're going to get better performance out of non blowbacks. It can be used for woodsball and speedball, no difference xept setting.
But if your not 100% bent on getting the two listed may I suggest a spyder electra 08 for cheaper than those? Everything is better, runs co2 and I promise they wont break on you unless you play during a flood.
But out of those two I def get the BT. But they're basically the same, xept BT is going to give you a nicer board.
I currently have a Pilot ACS right now that I use. It's not bad, it's just not what I'm looking for. I don't mind blowbacks. In my opinion it adds a little realism to the game. I haven't shot many rifles that don't have any recoil. But thanks...I've been leaning towards the BT-4
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^^^ agreed, i wouldnt see it as an upgrade at all from your spyder, its going to be larger heavier and harder to work on
if you want to stick with something that will work off co2, yet not be a blowback and have a milsim look, there is this great little marker called the SP1 by smart parts, you will need a CO2 tank with an AS tube but you can still run co2 with it
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blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
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Thanks for the input...I guess I probably will stick with what I have as it seems it will be the same. I'm kinda limited out here...I have unlimited access to CO2 (we usually have one tank) but the nearest HPA fill station is 100 miles...so until it's closer I guess I'm not doing much.
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if you want to stick with something that will work off co2, yet not be a blowback and have a milsim look, there is this great little marker called the SP1 by smart parts, you will need a CO2 tank with an AS tube but you can still run co2 with it
^^^ read
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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
Coming soon: Blue 2k3 Vert Feed Cocker, PowerLyte chrome hinge double trigger frame, 14 inch AA Stainless Steel Barrel, Bob Long Torpedo Inline Reg, Chrome Beavertail, Slik Back Block
If you like playing mid-range or back. I would go A5 because you can get a flat-line barrel which give you a ton of extra range. I'm also not into mil-sim When you hold the gun it's just a bunch of extra junk that gets in the way.
BT has the apex barrel but i don't like it because you have to aim up really high then the ball comes out at a funny angle and goes straigt so you can't use you gun sights.
<note>I don't have a a ton of barrel knowledge but i have seen those 3 in action and the flat-line really helps the paint go farther and sraighter </note>
I have not used a spider in a long time but we have a ton of friends that play paintball. None of the 3 people that bought Spiders like their guns and ended up replacing them with a different brand. That was about 5 years ago so things my have changed.
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LT- the flatline and apex are both gimmik barrels, neither will give you any additional useable range, they make the paint go further but at the "added" range the paint is traveling too slowly to break on anything
ndpaintballer-what didnt you like about the sp1?
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blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
I don't like that the whole outer body is plastic...including the feedneck. I'm not saying it won't hold up, I just prefer metal over plastic. That and it really should be used with HPA, which I won't have readily available till I go to college in a year. I'll save up and see what is new in a year or two.
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the SP1 can easily be used with co2 that has a AS tube installed, its designed to work off of co2, yes HPA is always better but thats not what ou were looking for
and unless they changed the a5 its not plastic, although it would help it loose some weight
even if the SP1 is plastic, i see no problem with it, has anyone heard a case of the plastic on these or the ion for that matter breaking?
beyond the sp1, even though its a STBB and doesnt look milsim at all look at the spyder electra
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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
I'm not worried about it breaking...I just prefer metal. Plastic makes it feel too much like a toy in my opinion, even though I don't doubt many people consider these toys. As far as the electra it's pretty much the same as my pilot. It wouldn't be worth it. I think I'll save up for a year and buy a better gun when I go to college like I said. Everything that would bring substantial improvement are out of my price range right now. I will keep surfing for used though and see what that brings up.
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The electra looks like your pilot but it will be much faster/ligher/somewhat smoother due to the SE valve. Save some cash and get the 08 one, its about $35 cheaper than the 09 and its basically the same. That way you can put your JJ barrel on the electra where as the tippmann/bt you can not.
BT-4 ERC vs. Tippmann A-5
