Chillz

So for the price:quality ratio, which is better? PMR or Invert Mini?

Chillz

Hey, another question i have is what is the best gun under $300? (Yes i understand the mini and PMR are both over $300, I am just wondering)

tlmiller

PMR is slightly smoother, with a better quality trigger, but (buying new, currently made versions) much more expensive.

Mini is lighter, with a few relatively inexpensive upgrades more efficient, and the trigger is faster and has a better feel IMO.

If I had to choose one, I'd go Mini. With an NDZ spring kit and bolt, it would shoot VERY close to as smooth as the PMR while being more efficient and as said, I like the trigger better. It would also STILL be cheaper than the current PMR.

As far as under $300 markers, do you mean new retail? If so, I'd say Ion XE is probably actually the best. I can't think of too many others under $300 other than the standard G3, which is definitely far inferior to the XE, and sear trippers. If you mean that can be had under $300, I'd say Quest.

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Chillz

Really? Because i hear so much bad stuff about Ions...

tlmiller

Ion, yes. They're horrid. Someone had sigged me as stating "Avoid the regular Ion like the PLAGUE". They're that bad. The XE has fixed the issues though.

Although the Blackheart Vibe also contends. Nicer trigger than the XE. BOB just like the XE. Nicer board than the XE. Clamping feedneck stock. Can be used on co2. And, the biggest thing that makes the Blackheart Vibe totally rock, it has EYES!! Most definitely, the Blackheart Vibe wins my award for best co2 marker made.

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Chillz

Alright dude, thanks