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jjehprodigy · September 2nd, 06:50 PM

what do valves and vessels do to your gun? i watched a video on a review of the Protege and the Vice and they said the main difference is the Vice has more "valves" and "vessels" what is that? and what does it do/affect?

and which is better the Protege, or the Vice?

**Trbo323** · September 2nd, 07:03 PM

got a link to the video?

jjehprodigy · September 2nd, 07:22 PM

yeah YouTube - Bob Long Protege vs Bob Long Vice

**Trbo323** · September 2nd, 07:34 PM

i didnt hear him talk about valves or "vessels" at all, he didnt even talk about the poppet valves in each marker

if you watched it the main difference is the milling, he even said he can not tell the differece between the two when shooting, so that said id say protege, its 200 cheaper and shoots identical to the vice. so unless you really really like the milling on the vice and have an extra 200 theres really no point in getting it

jjehprodigy · September 2nd, 07:40 PM

whats the milling? its at the video at 7:08-7:10 and maybe i misheard and he is saying the vice has all the bells and whistles? if so what does he mean by that??

**Trbo323** · September 2nd, 07:45 PM

ya he says bells and whistles, which after his whole explination isnt saying much, basically it comes with a lighter trigger, a clamping feedneck and the pillowbolt, all of which can be bought for under $200

milling is the design of the metal. basically how a marker is made is they take a solid chunk of aluminum and put it in a CNC machine that is programed to cut it in a certain way (known as milling) the more elaborate looking markers take longer to mill so they are gennerally more expensive.

YouTube - Fraisa High Performance Milling 6061 Aluminum

here is a short video of a CNC machine milling a block of aluminum out

jjehprodigy · September 2nd, 07:47 PM

oh alright thanks alot man

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