I'd take the A-5 over the Sp-1. The SP-1 will out perform the A-5 but the A-5 is not made by smarts parts.
I'm sorry but that's ignorant......your going to steer a new person to a ****ter marker just because your pissed(and have no right to be) about something that happened long ago.
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are there any other guns better than the a5, or is the a5 the best gun for the amount of money?
I already said that the Sp-1 is cheaper and will outperform the A-5. Don't listen to what some people are saying.....you should look at a marker for the quality and price, not who makes it.
No, actually performance wise it's one of the worst for the money. I'd go PBG EW-1 (spyder VS-1) for $60. After that, Vibe for around $150. Then SP-1 for about the same $150. Then Pilot with Eye for about the same. All of these markers are smaller, lighter, cheaper, faster, easier to work on than the A-5.
No, actually performance wise it's one of the worst for the money. I'd go PBG EW-1 (spyder VS-1) for $60. After that, Vibe for around $150. Then SP-1 for about the same $150. Then Pilot with Eye for about the same. All of these markers are smaller, lighter, cheaper, faster, easier to work on than the A-5.
I suggested Sp-1 because he specified woodsball marker, so i figured he wanted the milsim type one. And since Vibe and SP-1 is the same internally I went with that one.
True, but in the end, Vibe has a double finger trigger that will allow it to be fired quicker. And for just regular woodsball, Anything from that EW-1 up to a SL94 Ego will perform just fine. SP-1 is better for mil-sim since you can throw all the useless garbage pieces on it to make it look more like a real weapon, but for regular old woodsball, Vibe will be better. And if he want the "not flashy" look by woodsball, every marker I mentioned is flat black, the same as the A-5 (or at least can be had in black in the case of the Pilot).
Not that I blame you for suggesting the SP-1, for the milsim crowd, it's probably the best value. I'm just covering more bases assuming he just wants to play normal woodsball, and not go all milsim. Either way we've got the bases covered regardless if he just wants to play woods, or wants to make it looks all extra heavy while adding no functionality so that all the experienced players know to go after him because he'll be moving slower than everyone else.
I had the A5 its a good marker
Pros:
Sh*t load of upgrades. (A lot of cosmetics over proformance upgrades)
Dont really need a loader.
Not much to it.
Operates on CO2 and HPA
Durable
Dont need batteries
Cons:
Very inconsistant velocity.
Very expensive upgrades.
Heavy Kick
From what I hear of the SP-1 (Compared to the A5)
Pros:
Comes with auto fire
More consistant
Operates on CO2 and HPA
Lighter than the A5
Easy maintenance
Durable
Can play speedball with
Light Kick
Cons:
Needs a hopper
Needs batteries
I sold my A5 the fields I play at most people use auto firing
and I didn't want to spend an extra 80-120 bucks for an e grip or response trigger after I brought a barrel, stock and remote line. I would get the SP-1! And if you do get the A5 try to get RT or e grip version I wouldn't worry about the Flatline.
the cons on that a5 list should be much longer than that....
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I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
I had the A5 its a good marker
Pros:
Sh*t load of upgrades. (A lot of cosmetics over proformance upgrades) very few upgrades give any performance gain, even amung the ones billed to do just that
Dont really need a loader. except for the thing on top
Not much to it. except for all the parts on the inside
Operates on CO2 and HPA like everything else in the low end market
Durable just plain wrong
Dont need batteries like any other mechanical blowback
Cons:
Very inconsistant velocity.
Very expensive upgrades.
Heavy Kick one of the worst values in paintball, heavier and larger than most of the market and one of the worst designs for maintanance on the market
fixed ^^^
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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
I'm sorry but that's ignorant......your going to steer a new person to a ****ter marker just because your pissed(and have no right to be) about something that happened long ago.
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I'm sorry but your an idiot. I can state my opinion on anything i want to. And the SP-1 is a ****ty marker just like the ion. The A-5 is a better marker for a new person anyway. Its easy to work on, gives new people a better knowledge base on how to work on markers and is a very durable marker. It performance may not be as good as the Sp-1 but i'd take it anyway.
I have every right to not like a shaddy buisness that hurts the paintball industry.
sp1 is bolt out back, a-5 is clamshell, sorry Kaz but theres no way the a5 is easier to work on
a5 is inferior in every way shape and form, its more expensive and you get less
yes tippmann has better morals than SP but as for the two markers its no contest
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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
You know I have to state my opinion... I personally like the A-5 aswell. I'm a Tippmann fan (as clearly stated by my name). I don't think you'll be disappointed with the A-5, but yes, they are a little harder to clean. Once you do it, though, it's not that hard. It's really what YOU as the player wants. Some people say the SP-1, some say the A-5, but it's really about what you like and what you want. If I were you, I'd go to my local paintball shop and check them both out, and make your decision then.
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sp1 is bolt out back, a-5 is clamshell, sorry Kaz but theres no way the a5 is easier to work on
a5 is inferior in every way shape and form, its more expensive and you get less
yes tippmann has better morals than SP but as for the two markers its no contest
More people know how to fix an A-5, the a-5 lets noobs learn how to work on a paintball gun, and its easier to get parts. The Sp-1 also has regs, noids, wires, and a board that can cause problems that are NOT easy to work on. Is it easier to open an A-5 or sauter eye wires back onto a board? The SP-1 has alot of cornors that are cut on the inside of the gun like wiring.
The stock SP1 actually has no eyes, just a Low Force Bolt as a mechanical meens of anti chop
With the SP1, just unscrew the back cap, tap the back to remove the bolt, lube, done?
There really isn't corners cut into it, the SP1 blackheart (version with eyes) uses a daughter board with the eyes built in, unlike egos and the like that uses eye plates and such
The reg is surprisingly low maintenance, and easy to get into the guts, just unscrew the bottom and lube, and the reg protects the noid from the CO2 spikes.
I will submit that since it is electronic, there is more potential for it to fail, but the SP1 has been proven to take abuse like a champ
Ontop of all that, Tippmann's recent change of ownership has left the good old Tippmann reliability die completely, their guns just aren't made like they used to be.
Power tubes constantly crack and sears wear down prematurely, I wouldn't shoot a new Tippmann, but would gladly take an older version
noid board and wire (only 1 to the battery) is all in one spot, they are not running thoughout the marker. there are a few hoses and the weakest parts of the sp1 are going to be the banjo fittings, but with the BOB design there is no need to get to these and even if they do break they are $3 or so to replace
anyone who has knowlege on the ion, vibe or eos can also help out someone with an sp1 and to be honest i wouldnt be supprised if the number of owners of all those outnumbered a-5 owners. A-5 problems in my experience have not been the easiest to diagnose, buddy of mine has one, it was down for a hole season of play because of tippmann's material standards dropping and he went though about $300 in parts trying to figure out what was wrong. weak shelled paint can easily give off the impression the cyclone is putting too much force on the paint, or the bolt.
an unbalanced spool is a very simple concept, 1 basic noid and a bolt design is all thats required, no LPR to worry about and dwell timing never needs to be touched. its no cocker by any means. lube it and forget it, all the player should carry is a spare battery and a few o-rings out to a game and they are set, and dont even try to argue that $5 in supplies is going to make it inconvenient. any knowegeable player should have a few basic supplies with them whichever marker they are shooting
a5 is going to be havier, larger, louder, kick harder, be MUCH harder to work on, less efficient and cost more?
just because its a blowback doesnt mean it should be recommended to new players, brass eagle also makes blowbacks remember?
every marker i have owned has been a e-marker, and i didnt really start learning about the pneumatics of it all untill i got my impulse (second marker) and at that point i didnt even know what a poppet valve marker was, just because someone starts with a blowback means nothing, you learn what you have first thats all, doesnt mean he will never learn how a blowback works. iv never owned an unbalanced spool but have a pretty though knowlege of them. to the point that the concept bores me and i would rather not own one (one of the reasons i got a mini over a XE)
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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
Best woodsball gun for under $200?
